Kings of Battle - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 1)

Oh man, I’d love that, I’d fucking pay for the Vixen again just to get those integrated rocket pods
Rockets are such great tools for planes like the Vixen, they can work as guns as a last ditch effort, they can be used as makeshift flares, they allow you to get points in ARB if your team leaves you no kills…

Yep, Id buy it instantly. Though its probably about time we got a Sea Vixen for the TT. I get why they may have wanted to not do that (no guns on a fighter is a messy thing for the TT) but if Red tops become full power. I.e limited all aspect. Then why not

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They were a part of USSR, why would they be in the different tree? Also we don’t know consequences of these events, so imo it’s better not to rush with the addition of this nation at all.

Even when part of the USSR, they were not exactly treated well and dont exactly have fond memories of that era. Even if the game stopped at 1991 and the tree was only USSR. I can see that in itself being cause for some contension. If some consider Korea part of Japan tree a bad idea, then Ukraine being part of the Soviet/Russian Tree is just worse. Especially since last year.

But that is just getting off topic. Best guess, they wont add any Ukrainian vehicles. Especially when we remember who owns Gaijin

Ju-86 - not in-game.
Lightning F.53 - British built jet sold to Pakistan what makes this randomly placed?
Hunter F.58 - I agree on this
Wirraway, Boomerang Mk i/ii - Indigenous build aircraft build by Australia makes sense in the British Tree is becoming a sub if you want a commonwealth Tree.
Beaufort, Beaufighter Mk 21 - British build aircraft what makes this randomly placed?
DB-7 Hudson - I agree on this.
Avenger Mk ii, Corsair Mk ii, Martlet Mk IV - Used by the British what makes this randomly placed?

If the user of the vehicle isn’t in-game it would make sense to place it in the nation they either bought it from or invested resources in the development of the vehicle (including upgrades). Great examples are the M1A1 AIM, C2A1, T-72M2, M60T and etc, however there are some exceptions which you mentioned like the T-90, F58 and more.

EDIT - JU-86 is in-game under the name B3C, however this is bought and used by Sweden.

They’d most likely have Nea Zealand with them anyway. However, I know even less about them. I did bare basic research so that doesn’t help.

Canada was the dominion I looked into the most and know for a fact it can stand on its own.

All American vehicles.
No one’s complaining about countries getting export vehicles period.

Canberras are British. Not American strictly speaking. AV-8C are British as well. The Harrier II could be considered half American. P-51 is also half american

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B3C is the JU-86,

Lightning: This contradicts the placement of other vehicles (Such as F.58)
Wirraway was based off of the Harvard, which contradicts the placement of JU-86, Boomerang was developed off of this, therefore follows the same story.
Beaufort/Beaufighter are correctly placed, that was my bad
Avenger Mk ii, Corsair Mk ii, Martlet, are all American vehicles USED by the British through lend lease, this contradicts that the P-39 is in the American tree, as it was never used for combat operations.

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I’m a kiwi, I know stuff abt NZ, we used to have older aircraft, such as Wellington, and Spitfires (this is unique because our Spitfires tended to only have 2x Hispano, no MG.)

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Saudi Arabia, not Pakistan.

What about the ground? (apart from the bob simple) would you guys have enough to push Australian Tree(ANZAC) to have enough stuff all together?

No we wouldn’t, we’d only have Bob Semple and Schofield tank, but along with Australia we might be able to pump something out, it would only be small sub tree, like SA is ATM, unless Canada comes as well, and the rest of commonwealth

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I agree on the Wirraway it’s based upon an US design.

However if a country not in-game used these vehicles you build how makes no sense for it to be in your country which designed and build it?

According to you tons of vehicles in-game are placed “randomly”even when used by some countries represented in-game.

Where should we place the Leopard2A4/6CAN?

You’ve just landed on the exact debate/problem. Current placement is not consistant.

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As Morvran_ said, it isn’t consistant, that’s what I’m getting at, vehicle placement often contradicts others. If M1A1 AIM is fine in America, why give T-90 to Britain? It would belong in Russia

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Why Gaijin gave a T-90 to Britain? Many wonder however did many agree on this, nope.

This however are again small examples of Gaijin’s bad decisioning which again many disagreed on their tons of other vehicles which got placed logical.

Nice. The source mentioned this delegation, it even happened before relations were officially normalized in 1992. Nice photo.

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Canada by itself can be a small-medium tree with just domestic and modified added in the copy and paste the snail loves you get a medium-large.

The problem is that both nations would have two different play styles as domestic builds follow different paths and post-Centroun they when different ways for MBT. I find that both nations would offer different play styles hence why I want them as two separate nations.

Many sub trees have different playstyles to their main tree. I agree I would want seperate trees but there just isn’t enough for them to have seperate trees, like what would an ANZAC tree have for naval, there’s like 10 vehicles.

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