Su-27 and F-15 are purpose built Air Supremacy platforms, with the range, weapons and APG-63 to match (N001 being a massive disapointment), The EFT and Rafale are analogous to how the F-16C compares to the F-16ADF, both are good planes, but the 16C holds an edge in almost all practical engagements.
That’s what I imagined too, indeed! December update.
I figured out we would be getting AIM-120 and stronger missiles in November, along with BR decompression, and then F-15, SU-27 and pre-production Eurofighter on December- although maybe Gaijin is starting to slow down the pacing of the Top Tier additions, in which case it may take a major update more for this to happen.
Huh!? I think I am misunderstanding, but… are you suggesting that F-16C holds an edge in air-to-air performance against Eurofighter and Rafale?
We won’t be getting AMRAAMs this year unless they add stuff like the F-15J and platforms to carry AIM-120Cs or even newer as some nations never fielded weaker AMRAAMs
You have no way of knowing that.
1 Like
Gaijin stated that AMRAAMs and BVRAAMs will only be implemented when all ingame nations have proper platforms to carry them
1 Like
About my timeline too.
SHAR FA2, ICE, AV-8B, etc with ARH this coming update
Wider roll out of ARH and new top tier aircraft like F-15, Su-27, Gripen, etc maybe all with ARH, depends. December.
EF Typhoon March or June?
Would not be insane timeline. If they really really want to be cautious, September, but by that point, A few nations would be suffering pretty hard again, maybe nearing a full BR behind the leaders.
And you have no way of knowing it.
Knowing what? That we most likely won’t be seeing AMRAAM platforms for every nation within 2 months from now?
1 Like
If that 's the sole holdback at this point then so be it, but I don’t think these things exist in a vacuum - we’re already closing the gap on it 's weaponry and flight performance.
This update 's devblogs should make things a little clearer, but it seems like we might see platforms which hold the advantage in one or another aspect( maybe still short of the radar ?) sometime in the next few weeks - that might help us define what " comparable " is intended to mean from GJN 's perspective. Sort of like the ongoing Gripen C=confirmed-Eurofighter DA=denied discussion.
You said that they won’t come, that it’s a certainty. That is what you have no way of knowing.
no, the EFT and Rafale will be better than a mid 80s 15/27 in almost all ways, especially ground attack/SEA/DEAD
Why?
All-aspect IR missiles were added in drips and drabs and then a top tier aircraft, the Harrier Gr7 was added in Oct last year ahead of F-16s being added to all nations in December. AMRAAM to most if not all nations entirely possibe, Only nation that doesnt have in game right now, an aircraft that can carry Fox 3 is Japan. XF-2 or F-15 both easily could come in December would fix that
Which is what I believe will hapen next
Early Typhoon had no ground attack capabilites, that was Mid Tranche 2 upgrade. At most maybe a few cluster bombs, but thats just going by the Typhoon thread. Probably no A2G for early Typhoons, would be the Third Typhoon we got in game that would be Mutlirole.
Oh, I just re-read and understood your comment after the clarification!
lemme put this into mind people compare the F2 to the Typhoon for some unknown reason look
F2 equipment, weaponry and technology:
- AESA radar (first generations)
- AAM-3, AAM-4, AAM-5(AAM-5 is known to be almost as good as IRIS-T but still not as good)
- Ground attack weaponry its the same one as the F16’s at best since japan dosent really produce much ground attack weaponry
- Technology better than any 4th gen jet
Eurofighter Typhoon:
- IRIS-T, Meteor, AIM-120 AMRAAM
- Ground attack weaponry such as. GBU-54, GBU-48, Taurus KEPD 350, Brimstone II
- the radar used by the eurofighter its the Mk1 CAPTOR-E AESA wich its a really new radar
- much better manouverability due to the control surfaces the avionics and the same control system as the gripen
Now saying all this yall should get a clear idea of what this is capable of and NO its not ready for game it would stomp every SPAA, Jets, or anything in general and im not even listing all of its features
Well, it’s either gaijin starting to add more and more fantasy loadouts due to nations like france not fielding early AMRAAMs or waiting until all nations have planes capable of carrying later AMRAAMs
Wrong, Could be equipped with Aim -9L or Aim-9M. Does not need to be Gen 5 IR. AMRAAM yes, but any version and most others would have it
Wrong, looking at prototype and wasnt till Tranch 2 block 15 that some of that was added. First 2 Typhoons in game would have no A2G. They would be pure A2A
Based upon Blue Vixen radar likely coming with the Sea Harrier FA2 this update or December. Probably about on par to Gripen C or F-15 radar from my understanding, it really wouldnt be as giant a step up as it would seem. Also not an AESA radar.
Would be a little quicker, and would be more manueverable, but never going to be perfectly balanced in game. Tornado F3 vs any other jet in game isnt exactly much of a concern for Gaijin. So you wont win in a turn fight vs Typhoon. Not exactly a new concept for different playstyles. Been in the game since Spitfire days
1 Like
Yea comparable is a big asterisk because not all nations are equal even among contemporaries.