I don’t care who gets what so long as its a step closer to the Typhoon, last meta thing we can have. Its a real shame the UK militsry industry fell off during the 1970s things like the Hawker p.1202 wouldve been utterly incredible in-game and irl. Now theres no domestic competition and no money anyway.
They really aren’t at the top of that list with how CAS capable their multirole fighters are. They already both have a huge arsenal of designated strike aircraft.
This has nothing to do with minor nations not developing/investing into designated attackers, but rather the fact that gaijin decided to stuff the US and USSR trees with strike aircraft that you seem to believe to be lacking despite performing well enough
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The 11.0+ bracket is all thats relevant here, so yes, they are generally lacking compared to the options available.
But… they didn’t have to add things late. Tornado F3 might not be competitive Vs F16. But it could have easily come first half of 2022. Would have been competitve Vs late F4s and Mig23s. Adding it after the F16 sealed its fate and is the reason why people are angry about the F3. There is adding stuff slowly to minor nations because they had less and then there is not adding anything at all because… reasons
(Not too mention its BS, don’t forget things like ASRAAM entered service nearly a decade before Aim9X)
And that’s no explanation for why the large number of lower tier additions yet to be added like late Jaguars.
Jaguar Gr3A with 9Ls and HMD would be a really fun aircraft, but they skipped straight to Tornado Gr1 (which could have come with Mig27)
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You already said yourself that the Su-25T/39 is among the best strike aircraft in the game and that thing is 11.3
The US have the F-14B and F-16C alongside the very capable A-6E
for next major update i hope they update the penetration calculator because currently 15mm HVAP has more pen than 20mm HVAP which is weird considering 20mm hvap is 2 times heavier and slightly faster
oh and 20mm DM63 should have 60mm pen at 1000 meters like every single document i could find said
well the Gripen was confirmed by the russian devs and there was proof untill the google docs was greefed, tho if you ask CC’s about it they will proberbly say it was confirmed (Confirmed for this year that is, and that happend around Martch-May)
F.3 would have been mediocre regardless, Gaijin would never add it with 9Ls in the 2022 F-4/MLD meta
Sure its not bad, but I also wouldn’t call one of “the Best”
I would really like to see that confirmation from the russian forums, coz the only mention on the old forums by that one tech moderator is edited to say planned, while the screenshots of it have it saying its confirmed
From the technical standpoint it is. But in practice…
Gimme a minute, i migjt have it mybe laying somewhere around…
And thats the fact^^
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Early 2022, with 4x 9Gs and 4x Skyflash ST, with marked Radar improvement over the FGR2, more CMs, higher top speed. etc.
It would have been the perfect replacement for the FGR2 that had been at the time, top aircraft for 2 and half years
Yeah, it wouldnt have been winning dogfights back then either, but it would be 11.3 vs 11.3
I suppose it does depend on definition, when it was new, high speed and 4 GBUs were a relatively big thing. But its been chronically let down by missing features. The list is long and has yet to get any smaller
Yes, something like that.
We all want more, how is this even a question?
Su-25 struggles to climb to higher altitudes, and only higher BR have TV guided weapons, and only one has a targeting pod.
MiG-27 is most adequate, and still pales in comparison to A6E TRAM, F-14B, F-16 whatever. Two KAB-500Kr, three FAB-500’s, and 4x R60M’s is hardly anything.
Su-7 is fun, one doesn’t have a bomb computer, both variants are at 9.3, neither have any missiles or flares.
Su-17 either has no flares, or doesn’t have any standoff weaponry, and both only have R-60’s, not even M’s.
Helicopters are a good balance to this, but if you don’t have air superiority, you get shot down at some point, and the long range ATGM’s don’t even become a thing until 11.0/11.7.
Su-25BM coming down to 10.3 (I think that’s the plan) is a nice first step. I’d personally like to see the Su-17 come down in BR as well, and perhaps the addition of another plane. Maybe the Il-102 at that 9.3-10.3br range. More targeting pods, and a KAB-500L would be helpful too.
If we go above 11.0 again, anytime soon, for USSR CAS, I think the MiG-23/27 98 is the better addition. Should have a lot more in the way of armament and should be able to take a pod, I believe pylons are also upgraded as well.
Su-24 would be nice, but I think the reason why Su-24 and F-111 have not come to game yet is because they’d be tremendously hard to intercept with SPAA as it is now. Without a minor correction to make the missiles a little easier to use, it’s probably overkill to add them.
Just my 2 cents.
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I think it would be better to upgrade what they’ve got, like adding a thermal tpod to the Su39 and Mig29SMT rather than adding anything new. At the end of the day, they have a limited amount of capacity to dev new stuff. if they devleop Su24 (for example) then it means something else didnt get developed and when some nations have giant holes, that does leave a bad taste in the back of the mouth (Not just Britain in this, many nations have gaps that have existed for a while, but have yet to be remedied)
Wasn’t the Su-25BM just getting reduced to 11.0? I don’t think it would be a good fit for 10.3 with it’s expanded armament vs the Su-25/K
Yeah, I heard 11. No way R-73s go down to 10.3. If that was the case then Tornados need to go down too
R-73 at 10.0 huh. Interesting