That… is precisely why Im very confused and so are a few others.
So JDAMs cannot be changed after release. We use them against static targets that require precision guidance. What I could see happening is you select a grid on a map and then its up to you to have correct attitude and altitude during release.
Except we’ve spent the last 2 to 3 years being skipped. Thats the problem. We are already 1 full BR behind top tier. Sea Harrier FA2 with meaningful AAM advantages would keep us in the fight, but only against current aircraft. F-15, Gripen, Su-27/30. Nope, we’d be DOA again.
They cant skip us for all eternity.
So yeah, maybe they will just abdandon Britian (and by extension Germany) for the next year. But that would really suck.
Only reason NOT to add Typhoon, is because of balance. If all other nations have equal or greater, then that argument goes away. Then its just spite
They could allow for multiple targets to be designated. Maybe up to as many bombs as you’ve got. Then you just release and each bomb tries to hit each target. Higher you drop, the wider the spread/they need to be in a relatively straight line. CCRP though would help with that a lot
There is the CC422 gunpod in the files, which recently( only two years ago !) entered service on the Mirage 2000D RMV - the MICA-carrying ground-attack variant.
And the Gripen C specifically, too !
Yup and I’ll say it again im not sure why they don’t like giving us limited/early or nerfed versions of these type of domestic aircraft instead they just skip or go with the extreme fake additions. Like im sure a Typhoon varient with just AIM-9Ls to start of would be fine. Then they can test AMRAAMS to see if it would be to strong and so on.
But basically just a few other Mirage variants. Mostly though, I see france getting carried over the next 6 months to year by AAM additions like MICA
Yeah… Everything i’ve researched tonight, basically indicates that Full bore Typhoon F2 with everything is better than Gripen, but they are relatively speaking. close. But I have to make assumptions though that would incldue things like ASRAAM. Not Aim-9L. Also Full F2, not DA2 with Tornado engines.
For a lack of a better word. it would be Hypocritical.
I reckon… Gripen C with Aim-9M and AMRAAM would only be (at most) 0.3 BR lower than Typhoon DA2 with Aim-9L and AMRAAM and 0.7 BR lower than Typhoon F2 with Aim-9L and AMRAAM.
So if we are “no where close” to Typhoon, despite that. Nothing makes sense anymore.
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The stupid thing about not adding any of the pre-production Typhoon’s is that they would be able to supplement three underperforming nations while not being especially powerful in any area except number of hardpoints, which can be evened out with things like the F-15, Su-27, and Mirage 4000.
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About that, I’m not surprised because know gaijin not ready add Eurofighter Typhoon development aircraft (DA) from 3 countries (RAF, Aeronautica Militare & Deutsche Luftwaffe) and Eurofighter Typhoon FA2 (RAF) since Q4 this year till Q2 2024
I don’t know gaijin might consider add Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) on USA aircraft only or consider add on aircraft from Italian & Israel too ?
This is precisely why I am so confused. Not adding Typhoon just feels more and more like spite than actual genuine concern to do with balance. Unless they have it dead set that Typhoon can only be added with Gen 5 IR (ASRAAM/IRIS-T) and thereofre not an option anytime soon. A end of tree addition only. But that would just be insane too me
Even early production Typhoon’s only had IR missiles around the AIM-9L and M level anyway, so while the flight performance would be amazing, they wouldn’t be too far from what we currently have.
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Uh… Maybe for Germany and Italy. ASRAAM entered service 1998 and outfitted on Harriers and Torandos. Typhoon F2 entered service 2003.
But pre-production, 100% could be anything from Aim-9L to Aim-9M and nothing stopping Typhoon F2 from also being equipped similarly
I was unaware that Britain always used ASRAAM’s on them. Gaijin could always just limit all three nations’ Typhoons to AIM-9M/Li anyway, so it’s not a problem.
I’d assume they did at least. Could entirely be wrong though. But would make a degree of sense.
Even just stock Aim-9Ls would be entirely fine. I dont think they’d be at that massive of a disadvantage, at least not initially. Just tune up IRs to keep them right for balance
Indeed. I’m expecting a SHarrier FA.2, MiG-29G w/ R-73’s, and a Hungarian JAS39C for those three nations next, however I will always hold out hope for Typhoons, even though I know Gaijin isn’t kind enough to add them when they should be.
I’d expect ICE for Germany though, not another Mig-29 Variant.
FA2 would be entirely fine, so long as it held some form of advantage. Like fairly early Aim-120Cs. If it was held to parity. I.e other nations have AIm-120B therefore FA2 has Aim-120B. Then it would really suck
I completely forgot about the ICE. Yeah, that I am expecting first.
I’ve always expected that we’d get our Gen 3s first. So was never truly expecting Typhoon this year. March next year at the earliest. But it was just tonights Typhoon statement that then created a lot of questions. Especially Gripen and other mid Gen 4s. If britain is, as someone else put it “Skipped over” then it would at this point just be cruel. We’ve had 2 (actual) top tier additions in 4 years.
I remember the days back when Germany and UK used to be part of the Big 4. Now they have been reduced to a pitiful shell of what they once were.