I reckon this is unlikely tbh, I think SHar FA.2 and Typhoon are pretty much the only domestic aircraft we’ll get.
Tornado F.3 with AMRAAM is something that’ll come, no doubt. Its so easy for them to add, like Morv said.
As Ai bing said,
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Harrier Gr9a would be interesting, but only with Brimstone.
Yea
Even without Brimstone, HMD would be neat!
I’d take the CSP but I feel like we won’t get it… I expect the current F.3 to be given AMRAAM and either put up, or renamed and put up
TWR always depends on fuel load pylons etc. and to often wrong formulae are being used or different fuel loads or same fuel loads while with the same amount of fuel one aircraft or the other can still have a gerater reach than the other because of more sufficient engines and or less weight. etc.
Which turn time initial or sustained at which speed at which altitude?
Will their flight models be authentic or dare I say somewhat realistic or will one of them get ruined by instructor or any other feature of the game?
Where do you get the 3087 kph for the F-15 from?
yeah it would, but HMD and a slightly better engine I dont think would be enough to justify any higher BR than the Gr7. Therefore why add it? I could see Gr9 added as Premium and then Gr9A to TT once Brimstones could be added though, that would make sense.
F-15C MSIP II+ [AN/APG-63(V)1 instead of APG-70] with AIM-120C-3+ = Typhoon.
However, we’re not getting C-5s for a hot minute.
Morvran, I haven’t looked up the radar of Typhoon yet, and radar set can dictate BRs, after-all F-14A is 11.7 instead of 12.0 partially due to its radar set.
If Typhoon’s radar is as good or better than APG-63V1 then… it’s gonna be better than F-15Cs utilizing APG-70. Typhoon also comes with HMD from the start, whereas F-15s don’t get them until around the same time as Typhoon introduction, with American ones being the last ones to the party.
There’s a lot of things to take into account.
It was ballpark comparisons, found on google, so yeah, probably not entirely accurate, but CBA to find that level of detail. If it even exists.
And I just googled it and thats what it says.
But quick and dirty comparison does show that if Typhoon is out because it would be truly “OP” then I think any F-15 or Gripen must also be ruled out.
If Radar is that big of a deal. then Sea Harrier FA2 is BR13 too. Its Blue Vixen is equal too if not maybe better than APG-73. Typhoon’s radar is based on the Blue Vixen I believe.
Even at hte moment, Foxhunter Stage 2G is probably better than the F-16C or Mig-29SMT. But again, its not 12.3+
Radar doesnt have THAT big of an impact. Its weapons and flight performance that matter most. Weapons would be equal if not inferior (deliberately) and flight performance on par or really really not that far off F-15 or Gripen.
HMD doesnt mean much. Already found on most top tier jets in game.
But again. Do you really expect Japan to get AMRAAM on their F-15 and US to be fine with only Aim-7?
So if Typhoon is end of 2024. F-15 and Gripen are mid 2024 at the earliest. Neither will be this year
Apparently comparable Su-27s radar but I cant find much
You don’t talk much about the Rafale, are you afraid of what you don’t know? :p
F-15C
TWR: 1.29
Turn rate: 14 degree per second
max speed: 3087kph
EF Typhoon (unkown variant, but likely full EF2000 engines not the Prototype engines)
TWR: 1.25
Turn rate: 23 degrees per second
Max Speed: 2495kph
Gripen C
TWR: 0.94
Turn rate: 20 degrees per second
Max Speed: 2470 kph
Rafale (depend variants)
TWR: 1.64 (empty)
Turn rate: instantaneous turn rate of 36,4 deg/s and sustained turn rate of 27,3 deg/s
Max speed: ~2200 kph
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You know it is compression problem NOT Hunter F.6 BR itself.
wow, that 's alot of new pages ! Too many for me to quickly check if anyone 's posted this already, but idc - I wanted to post it anyway !
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Rafale of course would be also part of the equation. Typhoon = Rafale. They are close enough, with Typhoon still being the slightly better of the 2.
So if Typhoon can come, Rafale can come. If Typhoon can’t come, Rafale can’t come. Adding another jet to the equation is just unncessarily messy in this conversation about when it could come and what else can still come based upon the fact Typhoon is “too OP”
But Rafale would only come to France and France has a few more decent options going forward that could be added. Germany and Britain really don’t and Typhoon would come to 3 nations in total. So again, greater value to discuss Typhoon. (also Im british, so… Naturally I’d want the Typhoon)
“Typhoon still being the slightly better of the 2.” Didn’t wanted to ented this war but typical English answer i guess.
Swiss (or Sweden, always mixup) pilot test from 2008 classed Rafale > EF > Gripen. Now sure all are more advanced than in 2008, but don’t go easy on EF automatically better.
I dream of the Rafale, sure the game is not ready but can’t wait for this beautiful beast.
Look this massive loadout ! (2x Mica IR / 2x Mica EM / 2x Meteor / 6x Hammer / 3 fuel pod)
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My baby! In WT Mobile?
Not sure about the speed but it’s top speed anyway.
Typhoon would possibly be superior to F-15 variants from it’s time as far as I can tell.
Gripen is no joke either. Sheer engine power and related stats might be inferior but that is not saying much. It’s avionics should not be lacking either.
Maybe hardpoints will be the deceicive aspect but who knows.
Based upon what I can find, the Rafales main area of advantage is slightly better turn performance and larger take-off wieght, but Typhoon has the higher top speed, climb rate and (maybe) better Radar (at worse they are essentially equal)
In a dogfight, pilot skill probably decides the outcome 9/10 times.
Typhoon is probably the better air superiority/QRA jet. Rafale is probably the better “multi-role”
In the end, it depends on context which is better. Within the context we usually see in WT. I’d say Typhoon due to the better climb rate, Acceleration and top speed.
(its also worth remembering that at least when comparing with RAF Typhoons, that the Typhoon has IRST, Rafale I dont believe does)