Kings of Battle - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 1)

IRCCM isn’t everything you know.

yes magic II are good if you fire them in the correct parameters, but those aren’t easy to reach. the 1.8 s fuze activation and its horrific aerodynamics are also to take into consideration.
As for 530D, since the pid changes you can just forget long range shots, not to mention the fuze bug (but hey at least that one affects everyone)

gotta say tho, france is stuck in that uncomfortable place where mica’s are too good but its predecessors are really meh

Yeah, prehaps. It entirely depends on how they add ARH. If they all get Aim-120B or equivalent, then they’d be relatively weak. If some got C equivalents and others B equivalents then it might not be too bad. And they could yet add things like the Av-8B+ to US as an AMRAAM carrier instead of giving it to the F-16C. So slim hope there

I am still so fucking mad we got a cheap copy paste “early” Sea Harrier instead of the Sea Harrier FRS.51

Also, gimme back my red-tailed Sea Harrier camo

it very much is a thing and plans to exclude france were already on the way Deutschland, Italien, Spanien und Schweden arbeiten gemeinsam an der Entwicklung eines europäischen Panzers der nächsten Generation, der den Leopard 2 ersetzen soll | Gagadget.com

Besides that the EMBT still isnt realy optimal since the armor on the turret is realy thing compared to leclercs and leopards

Oxy just denied a blog for today guess

Right then, in that case, back to Typhoon or KF41 debate?

off topic so in spoiler :

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doubt it since it would mean germany is getting kicked off the fcas. Now of course they could try to join in the uk - italian - japan led project, but they are not goin to get the juicy part of the cake.

Anyhow this end was so predictible it’s comical at this point

Time for a new debate:
Should ARB get naval and arcade maps?

Bruh

I am surprised they didn’t add naval maps with the F-14 addition.

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Isn’t Sweden just an observer?

the fcas and the mgcs are 2 seperate projects, one can decide to go another path in one your are aware of that? they arent mutualy included in one another, if france and germany notice that they want to many different things in the tank design going seperate ways is the natural thing, and the new partners sweden, spain, and italy share the same needs on a tank as germany since they already use leopards. so collaborating on a new replacement is the natural progression

Yeah, I feel like naval maps for ARB are such a missed opportunity, especially with all the cool AShMs we could get and the sheer amount of new maps we would have to play on instead of just Golan, Spain and Vietnam all day

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Yep, and its not exactly like they have to make new maps, we have several ASB maps that could be modified to ARB size

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nuup, Saab and Leornado joined the development. Spain is the oberver one

“It’s a mixed of air and ground focused in this smaller update”

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Man, I was hoping for more boats to get us closer to tech tree variants of naval scouting planes like the Walrus and Osprey

Going seperate ways and being excluded are 2 very different things.

France could end the FCAS collaboration as retaliation and I doubt Germany will develop a 6th gen aircraft on their own.

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yes, but i don’t see dassault willing to continue with airbus if they see rheinmetall trying to go their own way when the situation doesn’t suit them (especially considering rheinmetall wasn’t even in the mgcs to begin with, it was purely KNDS stuff.

we can continue this in DMs tho, we are polluting the topic rn