Kings of Battle - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 1)

The reason it doesn’t have it is because it would perform the same with it, and thus there is no reason for its addition.

Or maybe because not only it doesn’t need it AT ALL, but also because SWEDEN DOES NOT OPERATE IT?

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the only reason STRV 122 dosent have DM53 is cuz it dosent use it irl

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If we’re actually trying to use this thread as intended, the evidence we have regarding possible options for Rank 8 Ground in the Swedish techtree is mostly the Strv 122+ discovered in the 2.15.0.13 leaks ( https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/twe9ez/new_vehicles_added_and_readded_with_the_ultra/?rdt=39603 )

You’ll recognize several other vehicles in that same leak, which were implemented today.

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No, Russia never use 2S38, only 2 was made until 2020. And all of them just technology demonstrator.

Well this is weird…

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At some point, vehicles using NATO standard 120x570 will need to be given compatible ammunition to be balanced with everyone else.
The point of that standardization is so countries can load compatible ammunition rather than having to wait for their own supplies to arrive after all.

The thing here is that italy started standarizing their cannons meanwhile sweden hasnt done that yet and hence why they havent bought any DM53 nor DM63, not only that italy had suggested using DM53 for the Ariete amv, Even saying it could be produced under license

It’s already standardized; it’s a Leopard 2… m/95 is just a domestically produced M322 round.
Abrams can fire DM73, and it’ll likely be firing DM63 in Poland from time to time.

Not sure about Thailand but for Iraq it could be their domestic T-72 version Lion of Babylon or just a variant for a premium. Or maybe premium/special cosmetics?

the abrams cant fire DM73 in the first place that’s why the L55A1 was built, it was for firing DM73 specifically and to handle more pressure, and the fact that some ammo its standarized to CERTAIN cannons dosent mean they all buy them and then can inmediately put it on their tanks just because they have a 120MM and as far as im aware sweden hasnt bought any DM53 neither DM63

Sweden may not be fully using NATO standards yet, but they may start in coming years as their own domestic stocks are depleted and need to be replaced.

i feel this is a more reallistic outgoing for the future since as far as im aware i havent seen them develop any new ammo for their MBT’s either so its probably gonna be the case in the future to buy DM63

Would make sense if they did. Using their own ammo when not part of NATO makes sense. If Sweden got involved in a war, then NATO might not be able to send them ammo directly or risk involvement. So self production is probably a good idea. Now they are a part of NATO, that worry is eliminated. So everyone using the same shell, or at least compatiable shells is the entire point of NATO. Which is why Chally 3 for example is going smooth bore

Took the Brits long enough lmao

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They stuck with rifled because they wanted to keep HESH, proved very valuable in Iraq.

You want from 20 mins

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https://youtu.be/IlcRsMB9SwM?t=1205

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also i haven’t heard anything about Germany even selling DM73 for other nations and not even any nation interested in buying it since there is no published info about it except the fact that its a new development, lets not say since L55A1 was made to fire this shell for the higher chamber pressure that means America should make a cannon good enough to hold that pressure without breaking too quickly or straight up blowing up, tbh with all respect saying that the M1A2 can fire the DM73 its statement wrong in many senses

brits: BESH my beloved

All shall fear the brits with their tea making facilities

They likely couldve made a HESH round suitable for smoothbore cannons, its more likely that the Brits are very set in their ways and wanted to remain semi-unique in using a rifled gun

made me remember that one photo of the brits casually getting the special tea kettle in their tank and serving a tea
boiling vessel:
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Ngl its honestly hilarious how its equipped with everything you need

1: dispenser(check)
2: ready alarm/light(check)
3: easy boiling device aka engine(check)

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