the problem is east german vehicles are fine cause germany was basic 2 different countries at that point east west they add a lot of value to the german air tree and ground.
rest of those vehicles no one asked for gaijin puts them in when there lazy and again i despise the swedish tiger 2 and no one liked india and the F14IRIAF is the most BS plane ever should have never been added
there are far better domestic options for the russia than a captured tiger 2 at 6.7 like Late IS2M or 1969 T34-85
I agree with everyone saying that this would be a wonderful (and justified) addition to Soviet TT, but in my opinion it’d just be another way to kill what remains of TT uniquenesses. Soviet 6.7 is more than fine with the vehicles it has, and I personally prefer the Tiger II H being available only for Germany
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Not everyone supported those additions, and many still dislike them.
We don’t need such copy paste, and it’s a shame there already is that much. No other nation should get a Tiger II, especially not a major nation like Russia.
Captured vehicles should not be added unless they have been modified in a way that makes them meaningfully different from the unmodified counterpart. Copy/paste vehicles also need to be meaningfully unique, and this Tiger II isn’t.
no more copy paste plz
As soon as we get our captured su 100 & is2:
Forgot to say that the ******* even receive better versions of our own equipment. I suppose gaijin conveniently “forgot” to implement the more lethal 2 cm 251/21 for the side that actually invented it. This is also applicable to the Ar 196 A-5 as well
USSR just got a captured german tank not even germany has two updates ago. USSR has a panther and panzer 3 aswell. While germany has a T-34, KV1 and KV2. So both have the same amount of captured vehicles
Dont even need them captured. IS-2 was used by east germany and su-85 (not su-100 though) aswell.
That’s one of the problems. Everything was used captured by everyone especially after germany fell all remaining tanks were in allied hands. You cant really expect to get them all like people here. The only unique ones remaining would be prototypes. Same goes for germany. Ton of soviet, allied stuff was captured. Both shouldnt be ingame and ussr tree really doestn lack late war heavy tanks. USA doesnt lack either. Both have even the most around 6.7 to 7.3
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We do NOT need another King Tiger in a battle pass. I’m already seething over the fact that gaijin locked the only two heavies, literally an entire vehicle class, in the Swedish tree behind a paywall. Same goes for Italy with the Tigris
captured the same amount as ussr excluding obvioulsy things like the kv-1c which was heavily modified
Two wrongs don’t make a right. A large chunk of captured soviet equipment were modified to differ and thus, I firmly believe they are unique additions. Sure the copy paste trophy stuff should 100% go. East Germany is also quite needed mostly for air as even with Switzerland,West Germany and Modern Germany would lack a strong enough air tree outside of prop and early jet BRS due making a low amount jets post ww2 (Alpha, Tornado and Typhoon, all of which were multinational projects).
The Swedish T-80 was also dumb, though I understand why the Mi-28 was added as the Swedish Heli tree is quite sad.
This doesn’t mean the USSR or any other nation should be allowed to grab all of its trials and trophies. If they were modified to the point it would change the gameplay and or damage model, then sure. If it’s the only option, fine. Otherwise nuh uh.
Me-163 was modified with extra seat → unique addition
USSR tt dont have any tanks with decent reverse and depression → Leopard 2, Abrams or T-84
USSR tt dont have any wheeled tanks, despite having many local designs → Centauro, Freccia and AMX-10
Does it look as justified as swedish Mi-28 to you? Doubt so.
And one wrong dont make it right either. It isnt about abstract “rightness”, it is about fair treatment.
Imagine if this suggestion was about exact same model of Tiger being added to USA. Would people like you also write here about how bad will it be to add another copypaste? Nope. There will be 96% YES votes.
Sad truth:
Most (nearly all) people opposing suggestions like this are doing so not because of “copy-paste”, but purely because it is suggested for USSR.
Such a victim mentality. Cant be happy if russia hasnt everything and is the best in everything. Crying for leopards, abrams and oplot is beyond embarrassing
Just look at the USSR tree at the lend lease vehicles. US doesnt have a single USSR vehicle. So with your logic they should first add 3-4 USSR vehicles to the US to make it fair
And I would vote no if it was the suggestion for US or another tree because copy and paste waters down every tree (should only be used if there is truly a gap in the tree)
Fair enough, as long as it’s armed, I would support it’s addition.
The Swedish Mi-28 was for a very small tree with next to no options whatsoever, even with premiums. If the USSR has any tanks that can fit a want (because the USSR ground tree is in no way comparable to the Swedish Heli tree in lack of content), then USSR vehicles should fill the gap not copy slop.
Uhh yes. Doesn’t change it from being copy paste. I’m also vocally apposed to stuff like the USA centauro.
Also if your accusing me of being anti USSR or something, I literally said I would’ve +1 if something had changed with the vehicle impacting gameplay further up the thread.
Maybe it’s because the largest ground tree can still get bigger and stronger without copy slop? I’m all for any unique additions for any nation. What isn’t needed is plastering unneeded copy paste, which is already being done with the American howitzers.
This isn’t because of some secret shadow society that downvotes USSR additions. Yes some people might be like that but quite literally every nation has its vehement haters and “should’ve been a subtree” crowd for the smaller trees.
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No differences to the German Tiger II. At least the Swedish Kungstiger has a more unique model and is also one of the very few heavy tanks Sweden could get (aside from the Strv KRV and Finnish KV-1s), although I’m also not fully supportive of that. The Soviet tree has more than enough heavies.
Never realised that kungstiger had a different model, what changed?
Just the Zimmerit, and the lack of sideskirts. Although now the updated Tiger II (P) has Zimmerit as well.
Yup, sure. example of victim mentality is here:
And here you are crying for USSR stuff in tech tree that does not need it anyway. Cries bout T-90, Pantsir, or literally any museum stuff are from you as well? I wouldnt be surprised. Russian bias, Germany suffers, right? Meanwhile USA got Iranian F-14 because… because what? Because gaijin will not resist US mains cries if it would have been put in USSR tt.
You completely missed the context here.
Sure, with my logic USA can have russian vehicles if they bought and actually used them in combat. Also land-lease is an important page of russian history, tanks and planes were widely used, and its a shame they all paywalled. Btw USSR still lacking their M18 hellcats (Gaijin when?)
Manufacturer nation rule for non sub/main nations
Hence why:
Colombian Kifir in Israel
Lithuanian Villkas in Germany
Czech Hind in USSR
Saudi Lightning in UK
Spain, Poland, Australia and Canada being split between multiple trees (in varying degrees of course).
I would rather all a nations vehicles stick together but that’s gajin’s current view point
