King Tiger - Trophy from the battle of Ogledow

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Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg King Tiger - Trophy from the battle of Ogledow
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Soviet Soldiers inspecting their new trophy Tiger II #502


History
In August 1944, during the intense fighting on the Eastern Front, Soviet forces engaged German units near the village of Ogledów, Poland. This area became the site of a fierce confrontation between Soviet armored units and some of Germany’s most formidable tanks, including the King Tiger II. Between August 11 and 13, seven King Tigers were destroyed by Soviet forces, while six others were captured intact or nearly intact, representing one of the few opportunities for the Soviets to study these powerful machines firsthand.

Soviet troops, including elements of the 71st Independent Guards Heavy Tank Regiment, played a pivotal role in the battle. Guards Senior Lieutenant Udalov led his platoon in an ambush against a German column, successfully halting their advance and destroying multiple Tiger II tanks. His leadership and bravery earned him a nomination for the title of Hero of the Soviet Union, highlighting the significance of the engagement not just tactically but also for morale.

The captured King Tigers were transported to Soviet-controlled territory, where engineers and military specialists examined their armor, weapons, and mechanical systems. This allowed the Soviets to understand the strengths and weaknesses of the Tiger II, especially in comparison to their own heavy tanks, such as the IS-2. Notably, Soviet 122 mm shells proved capable of penetrating the Tiger II’s armor under combat conditions, informing future tactics for engaging these heavy German tanks.

Beyond the technical insights, the capture of these tanks provided a morale boost to Soviet forces, demonstrating that even the fearsome Tiger II could be overcome with planning, skill, and determination. The Ogledów engagement remains a remarkable example of how Soviet troops were able to neutralize and capture some of the most advanced German armored vehicles of World War II, turning enemy strength into a source of knowledge and advantage.

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Another image of Soviet Soldiers inspecting their trophy King Tiger #502.

The Battle of Ogledów: A Soviet Triumph Over the King Tiger

"In August 1944, during the intense fighting near Ogledów, Poland, Soviet forces faced off against the formidable German King Tiger tanks. Over the course of three days, from August 11 to August 13, seven King Tigers were destroyed, and six were captured intact or mostly intact.

The engagement began when Soviet forces, including Guards Junior Lieutenant Oskin and Guards Captain Ivushkin, set up an ambush near the village of Ogledów. They camouflaged their T-34-85 tanks as haystacks to blend into the surroundings. As German tanks approached, the Soviet crews opened fire, destroying several King Tigers and forcing others to retreat.

One notable incident involved Senior Lieutenant Klimenkov, who, upon receiving reports of a German tank hiding behind a house, took action. He fired at the structure, destroying it and causing the German tank to retreat. Shortly after Soviet forces captured the vehicle.

The captured King Tigers provided valuable intelligence to the Soviets. One of the tanks was a commander’s vehicle, complete with maps and instruction manuals. A German prisoner confirmed that the battalion had been formed with 20 King Tigers and 20 Panzer IV tanks, but by August 16, only 26 tanks remained, many of which were damaged.

This battle marked a significant Soviet victory, showcasing their ability to overcome advanced German armor and gain crucial intelligence for future engagements."

Tiger II History
The King Tiger, or Tiger II, was Germany’s most feared heavy tank during World War II. Built as an upgrade to the Tiger I, it combined thick armor with a massive gun that could take out almost any Allied tank from long range. Introduced in 1944, the King Tiger carried the 8.8 cm KwK 43 L/71 gun and had sloped armor up to 150 mm thick, making it extremely tough to stop in a fight.

On the battlefield, the King Tiger was a beast. Its gun could destroy enemy tanks before they even got close, and its armor let it shrug off most attacks. But it wasn’t perfect. Weighing nearly 70 tons, it was slow and heavy, struggled in mud and soft terrain, and broke down more than lighter tanks. Fuel shortages and maintenance issues also meant that even though it was powerful, it couldn’t always be used to its full potential.

Despite these problems, the King Tiger made a real impact. It saw action on both the Eastern and Western Fronts, including in Normandy, the Battle of the Bulge, and the Soviet offensives on the Eastern Front. Its presence alone could shake the confidence of enemy troops. Only about 490 were ever built, so they were rare but highly respected on the battlefield.

The Soviets managed to capture King Tigers, giving them a chance to study the tank up close and learn how to counter it. The King Tiger became a symbol of German engineering. At the same time, its size and complexity showed that even the most advanced machines have limits. Today, it remains one of the most iconic tanks of the war, remembered as a true heavyweight of armored warfare.

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King Tiger #502 captured at the battle of Ogledow.


Specifications

Armament:

  • Main Gun: 8.8 cm KwK 43 L/71
    • Penetration: ~203 mm at 100 m, ~182 mm at 1000 m (AP)
    • High-Explosive: 105 mm HE for infantry/soft targets
  • Secondary: 2 × 7.92 mm MG 34 machine guns

Armor:

  • Front Hull: 150 mm (sloped)
  • Side Hull: 80 mm
  • Rear Hull: 80 mm
  • Turret Front: 180 mm
  • Turret Sides: 80 mm
  • Turret Rear: 80 mm

Mobility:

  • Engine: Maybach HL 230 P30 V12, 700 hp
  • Weight: ~69 tons
  • Max Speed: 41.5 km/h (road), 20–25 km/h (off-road)
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 10.1 hp/ton
  • Operational Range: 120–150 km

Sources

Captured Tiger II - Soviet Forces | Gallery
Tiger II - Wikipedia
Tank Archives: King Tigers at Ogledow
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+1 Oh boy people ain’t gonna like this

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+1, now we need a suggestion for American-captured KT.

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+1 for German captured stuff to appear more in the aliied trees

They have tons of captures stuff in their trees time for the favour to be returned

Soviet, American and British tigers and panthers

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Theres a difference between the willy-nilly nature of gaijins copyslop and notable lend leases/captures.

Tiger 2 is one hell of a notable vehicle with the benefit of potentially adding something with a different but still fitting playstyle to a tech tree. Things like generic T80U, T34 and american SPH copypaste spam is not comparable

you’ll never catch me complaining

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benefit of pottentially adding something with a different but still fitting playstyle to a tech tree you say :P

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I am in favor if they add east german tanks finally including IS-2M and T-34-85 used by east germany. Finally time to get these added since east germany didnt caputre them but bought them and used them in numbers compared to this.

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Generic commieslop MBT is not a different playstyle to the challenger.

A light tank or AFV is. Like badger.

or in the case of this suggestion, a heavy breakthrough tank with medium tank mobility, but unlike the KV and IS series has some proper firepower without an extremley slow reload speed

solely by the grace of lower gun depression than challengers it needs to be played differently than them.

anyway your criteria are just arbitrary reasons to justify KT in Soviet TT. It would be as much copypaste as the Bhisma is.

I personally dont have issue with soviet KT beyond general issues of copypaste and further murder of TT identity but these are not soviet KT specific, as well as seeing that there is already soviet panther.

But I do wanna point out the hypocrisy.

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not really, other than playing the PT76 ive never felt at a disadvantage for hull down from having only 5 degrees of depression, still doing the same thing just on a less steep slope.

I agree that it can be, however its also a disservice to the historic identity of that tree to hide things such as legendary captured vehicles from it.

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Bhisma cant hold the same positions on map as Challengers. Sure, there are positions that can be hold by both, but logically speaking, tank with twice the gun depression has more tactical freedom when deciding how to play map that isnt flat. Thus the playstyle will differ; by how much is up to question and will be map dependant.

There are also other things like challenger being able to out-reload T-72/90s but Bhisma cant, since its T-90; Bhisma being significantly faster than Challengers, different armor profiles and what not - but continuing this convo would be offtopic to soviet King Tiger, so I suggest to either take it to PMs (as i think theres lot of ideas to be thrown around on this), or cut entirely.

As I said, I have no issues with soviet King Tiger beyond the general copypaste issues. However, let me just point out one thing - you called Bhisma “generic commieslop MBT”, despite UK being only other tree beside russia to get T-90. Since more TTs can claim captured King Tigers as part of their “historic identity”, how many of them need to be added into the game before they get called “tigerslop”?

I dont see the T90 as anythimg more than a later mark of T72 so I see nothing unique about a T90 inherently. To me its just like the T80s and T72s lazily thrown into so many other trees.

the differences are no more than an H1 tiger to E in my eyes.

Im for acutally unique offerings like a tiger 2 where it fits, not for shoehorning in a slightly changed 3d model because it was easy to do so

It’s not modified so don’t really see a point imo

and yet, Bhisma/T-90 has unique model and different armor scheme in regards to turret.

This argument cannot stand if you think about it.

T-90A might not be that much more unique to soviet T-72, but Bhisma is unique to the british tanks.

soviet king tiger on the other hand wouldnt differ at all when compared to german king tiger bar different camo and markings.

How can bhisma, which is unique when compared to british tanks, be a copypaste, but soviet king tiger be unique addition?

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Germany has countless soviet tanks but when USSR could get one German vehicle people say NIEN how hypocritical

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Here’s another image of a separate King Tiger captured by the Red Army number 348a.
There’s also a handful of Tiger 1s of the Tiger H1 and E series, SO FAR I know two were pushed into service and others sent for testing.

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They captured almost everything that was mass produced, but I think it’s fair to have evidence if it is to be implemented.

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Only “copypasted” soviet tank in the german TT, ie. ported without any significant change (if any at all), is the finnish KV-1E.

T-34(r) was at least uniquely modified by the germans with actual gameplay differences to the russian T-34s.

KV-1C was also modified by germans with german commander coupola and german 75mm, so again it has actual gameplay difference to the russian KV-1s.

KV-2 was also modified by the germans, but the gameplay differences are neglibile (extra weakspot in form of commander coupola).

T-72M1 was in service with east germany, but the gameplay differences are minor.

Love how you conveniently leave out the german vehicles already present in soviet TT. Bit of a hypocrite, arent you?

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I don’t even know the story on how that got to Kubinka, was it used in combat? Lol