Such a victim mentality. Cant be happy if russia hasnt everything and is the best in everything. Crying for leopards, abrams and oplot is beyond embarrassing
Just look at the USSR tree at the lend lease vehicles. US doesnt have a single USSR vehicle. So with your logic they should first add 3-4 USSR vehicles to the US to make it fair
And I would vote no if it was the suggestion for US or another tree because copy and paste waters down every tree (should only be used if there is truly a gap in the tree)
Fair enough, as long as it’s armed, I would support it’s addition.
The Swedish Mi-28 was for a very small tree with next to no options whatsoever, even with premiums. If the USSR has any tanks that can fit a want (because the USSR ground tree is in no way comparable to the Swedish Heli tree in lack of content), then USSR vehicles should fill the gap not copy slop.
Uhh yes. Doesn’t change it from being copy paste. I’m also vocally apposed to stuff like the USA centauro.
Also if your accusing me of being anti USSR or something, I literally said I would’ve +1 if something had changed with the vehicle impacting gameplay further up the thread.
Maybe it’s because the largest ground tree can still get bigger and stronger without copy slop? I’m all for any unique additions for any nation. What isn’t needed is plastering unneeded copy paste, which is already being done with the American howitzers.
This isn’t because of some secret shadow society that downvotes USSR additions. Yes some people might be like that but quite literally every nation has its vehement haters and “should’ve been a subtree” crowd for the smaller trees.
No differences to the German Tiger II. At least the Swedish Kungstiger has a more unique model and is also one of the very few heavy tanks Sweden could get (aside from the Strv KRV and Finnish KV-1s), although I’m also not fully supportive of that. The Soviet tree has more than enough heavies.
And here you are crying for USSR stuff in tech tree that does not need it anyway. Cries bout T-90, Pantsir, or literally any museum stuff are from you as well? I wouldnt be surprised. Russian bias, Germany suffers, right? Meanwhile USA got Iranian F-14 because… because what? Because gaijin will not resist US mains cries if it would have been put in USSR tt.
You completely missed the context here.
Sure, with my logic USA can have russian vehicles if they bought and actually used them in combat. Also land-lease is an important page of russian history, tanks and planes were widely used, and its a shame they all paywalled. Btw USSR still lacking their M18 hellcats (Gaijin when?)
Hence why:
Colombian Kifir in Israel
Lithuanian Villkas in Germany
Czech Hind in USSR
Saudi Lightning in UK
Spain, Poland, Australia and Canada being split between multiple trees (in varying degrees of course).
I would rather all a nations vehicles stick together but that’s gajin’s current view point
Fair enough, although didn’t gajin say they were planning for a potential Indonesian subtree for Japan (I remember it wasn’t finalised where Indonesia would go currently)
Edit:found it
Also the USSR does still benefit from the rule (Czech Hind, Kazakh Su-25, Syrian Su-22)
Are you even talking with me or with made-up argument you imagining on my side?
Im not against this Tiger because Sweden got one in even worse condition, and it is in game right now.
USA dont need russian tanks because their tt already fully self-sufficient (aside from spaa gap), and russian tanks dont bring anything fundamentally new to USA. Meanwhile Tiger is very different from any russian heavy tank.
True about Su-22, but i dont think Czech and Kazakh vehicles are added because of manufacturer, more like because said nations are planned as possible subtrees for USSR. We have Praga truck for example, original Czech vehicle, as tech tree spaa.
So an east german IS-2 would be fine for you since it would bring something new for germany? Considering that it’s the same situation but reversed? You simply dont get how your argument is literally a double standard
“Your are simply biased. Both US and Germany lack guns with good angle pen which an IS could provide.” Same stupid reason and bad for the game in general if everything is c&p to every tree
My advice just grind the german tree if you wanna play a tiger 2 so badly and again russia doesnt need everything at every br. It’s good that nations have different playstyles
German mains don’t want it added because suddently then copy paste removes the uniqueness of tech tree, but when you mention an Abrams or F-18s for Germany or even worse, Britain, then it’s somehow fine
i dont like the F18s in german tree they add no value brimstones on typhoon already fill the role and a lot of people didnt want britain getting them either
My advice is the same for every russian vehicle added to any other nation. Yet here we are, I repeat myself again - majority votes “yes” if its russian vehicle for another nation, but when something foreign being suggested for USSR, then sudddenly everyone is against copy-paste.
Same line under every foreign vehicle suggestion for Russia. “Imagine if it was the opposite”, well I dont have to imagine - plenty of russian stuff already in another tech trees (especially in german one), to the point that I dont care anymore.
Want to play T-34 and KV? Sweden and Germany it is. Want IS-2, T-34-85 and ISU-152? China. Want ZSU-57-2 and 2S1? Italy.
King Tiger for Sweden was okay, but suddenly King Tiger for Russia is an issue?
Yes, its
Dont bother twisting my throwaway words further to find another flaw. My logic is very simple: If russian vehicles are distributed to other nations - Russia should receive something foreign as well. If gaijin add Tigers to other nations, there is no point to resist their addition anywhere else. Very “biased” and “double standard”, right?
