Kfir C.10 (B60) - The final upgrade

It can be seen in the video in the sources

If you believe this to be enough of a source for gaijin to accept and include, would you mind adding it to the suggestion? Its an improvement over other Kfir variants and probably something that should be made apparent in the suggestion post.

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Sure, i planned adding other stuff aswell that ChileanThunder found which will also benefit the Kfir C.10, to be specific, the Block 60, as apperently it can also carry I-Derby, but I’ll edit it now, give it a sec.

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Pantsir tracking radar is PESA I think.
Within current radar framework, easy implementation of PESA/AESA radars would be TWS with bit less range, but scans 10-20 times per second. Then if Gaijin decides to model jumping frequencies and wave encryption, they could just display such radar as “?”, as they already backed off from older RWRs not picking up MPRF/HPRF radars.

But it doesn’t act any different ingame as a PESA. The only noticeable thing is that the tracking radar band can only be detected by the most modern heli RWRs, and no plane ingame can detect a lock from it, given just how modern that radar band is.

If memory serves me right, it has rather PESA/AESAish scanning pattern in TacView, blinking beams in different directions instead usual constant radar beam scanning left to right, K band is just another feature of it. And Su-25SM3 got some time ago RWR upgrade to cover K band when snail achieves perfekt balans and it becomes russia vs russia gaming.

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Well. No Kfir

Dev stream =/= full major update.

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As mentioned in the comment above, just because it’s not on the dev server now doesn’t mean it won’t be coming to the game this update. Plenty of vehicles that are still in development don’t appear on the dev server, and sometimes pop up outta nowhere on the live server. Development takes time, sometimes that time extends past the dev server.

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pretty sure gaijin will never add two top tier plane one after the other in the same update (exepted when adding new nation to a tt)

Gajin not ready Kfir Block 60 in 2 years because advanced radar and domestic israel 5th gen IR AAM

I might hope Kfir C.10 this year

F16C and D are also supposed to have python 4 and 5

Brother, china literally just got the Jeff and J-10 in the same update, both top tier aircraft my guy… so no that’s not how this works.

British got the Sea Harrier FA.2 and Tornado F.3 Late last update, ant the USA got the AV-8B+ and F-15C MSIP II last update, and all of those could be considered top tier aircraft if you ask me.

There isn’t really a limit to what gaijin is willing to add to a single nation per update, never has been.

i mean next to each other, the Kfir C10 would be after the netz so before the F16C. all exemple are top tier but from different line

Kfir C10 isn’t a top plane.

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that’s why I say after the netz, netz is 13.0, Kfir c10 has derby so it will be at minimum 13.3

C10 with Derby? You mean an airframe worse than J-8F and with 2 less missiles…
IDK, if ANY supersonic airframe was going to be similar to the AV-8B it’d be the Kfir series of aircraft.

C10 is a modernise C7 so it has access to derby, python and guided bomb so no it won’t be at the same br as a subsonic flying brick

Oh… you under estimate the AV-8B. It is no where close to a brick as it out-sustains F-14As, and F-14As out-sustains Kfirs.
Along with both out-pulling Kfirs due to the fact Kfir’s baseload airframe is a Mirage 5 and is thus stuck with the hard airframe G limit of ~9Gs on full fuel which isn’t a lot for the General Electric engine.
The C10 is also heavier than the C7 which means it won’t maneuver as well as the C7.

So yeah… the Kfir line of aircraft are an upgraded Mirage 5 derivative that shows its age.

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J8F is 13.0, when you compare it to the AV8B+ it has worst missile, quite bad dogfighting capibilty plus it doesn’t have guided bomb so yeah, the AV8B is at this br bcs it is subsonic, if it was super sonic it would at least be 13.3 so yeah no. The J8 is based on a enlarge Mig21 so quite comparable to the mirage 5, and still, the J8F as one of the worst fox 3 so yeah no way the kfir would be at a lower br than the J8F