Year 2024 and the British Rounds still love to shatter on the most minimal disturbance.
Shoots UFP of Leopard 1 SHATTERS
Shoots M48 NO PEN
Shoots T54s BOUNCE/SHATTERS
HESH is unusable and APDS is just straight unreliable to use, i only use AP rounds since they deal more damage (or at least more reliably but no where near as good as APHE or APFSDS)…
The 105mm and 120mm (of the Chieftains) is actually very good, since it is alloy APDS, while the crap used with the Conq, the 83mm, and the 17pds is carbide APDS.
sorry but not as good as the apfsds you see in the same BRs.
Simply underperforming.
Centurions are manageable if they are in a downtier with AP, but apds? lmao you can’t do anything.
The ones with the 84mm are just plain useless.
I played these 4 in the same lineup (when the Mk 10 was 7.7).
With the 84mm gun tanks, i could not even get 2 K/D (except the Caernarvon, by some miracle, but even that is just barely over 2), yet with the MK10, it was over 4, for around 320 matches (and then came the BR changes, and nothing but full uptiers against at lest 5 Object 279s, because why not).
I see a lot of people using this vehicle as a breakthrough tank which it was never designed as. The vehicle is good as a medium to long range overwatch tank the type that peaks over the hill when its time to shoot and then pulls back.
Even then, I have seen conquerors used effectively as close assault vehicles, and someone I know who has grinded through the British tree and says that it is scuffed almost the whole way through, really likes the Conqueror even though he plays it like an idiot so it is clearly doing something right.
The Conqueror also has a feature that it shouldnt have, but I wont give any hints for reasons. At the same time the round should do more damage, it seems like focus is placed on shot weight and diameter when it comes to AP damage, but in reality it shoots one of the heaviest subcaliber rounds in the game at a very high velocity, so it should be more consistent. APDS can sometimes crew wipe, the issue is that it needs room to disperse ive noticed, and it also needs a 6 on a dice roll too.
I did not use it as a breakthrough tank.
But it was horrible as a long(er) range support too thanks to the awful accuracy, trash pen, and damage.
I wouldnt describe the gun as inaccurate nor would I ever describe it as having “trash pen” the amount of vehicles that you cant deal with even in an uptier must be single digits bro, even stuff that you cant sloped pen you have BESH as an option as well, its not really a valid issue
It’s pen is bad, it is a fact. The armor is meh at the best, considering it can die to a 100mm HE shell frontally.
Oh man, either we aren’t even playing same tank or you are unluckiest Conqueror player in history of this game
What do you mean?
I was facing a t-34( American one) and the sabot shell shattered. The times ive managed to get a good shot on someone and it shatter has cost me so many times.
The shell will shatter against pretty much any form of spaced armour, if there’s any for of air gap between plates there’s an extremely high probability of the shell just shattering. Especially annoying against tanks with add on track armour. For a gun with that long of a reload shell shatter should just be removed from it. It doesn’t warrant the nerf, it’s already a a slow heavy tank with low spall, slow reload and and extremely unstable ammo storage location… It really doesn’t need to have it’s rounds made of glass
I’ve been doing a few battles in Conq as of late and I have to say its not as bad as I remember it being. Been doing ok, not amazingly but its not been that bad.
Reload could still be better but meh its a good go two once I’ve run out of Fox’s :D
TBH, I think they should just remove shell shattering until other rounds have their flaws modelled
There is zero fuse failure in this game for aphe, and yet apds shatters in a stiff breeze. Why? What possible reason is there for apds to shatter and yet aphe with the fuses which failed the majority of the time work just fine. You don’t see aphe detonating prematurely, or failing to detonate.
It seems grossly unfair for one ammunition type to get its flaws modelled and not others.
The shell shattering means I basically don’t play 7.7. Hesh is awful, apds is awful so you’re left with solid shot which still doesn’t do appropriate damage.
So yeah, I think shell shattering should be removed until everyone is gimped equally.
id just wrap every tank in 10 cm crumbled aluminium foil. everything will shatter. so many flat angles. just believe ;-) and if it doesnt…you know how much aluminium foil would spall? 0! Crumbled aluminium foil armor is best armor! Shatters, Ricochets, Overpens and non fuses everywhere!
Man i just want my Bob Semple already
tell that to the engineers that made it
Conqueror is a great tank as long as you don’t face anything above 7.3.
My main two issues is that its mantlet is made of bog roll and APDS shatters dozens of times more frequently than it should
I’d be fine with everrything else on it as long as it did damage to things it hit.
APDS is just intentionally trash, and its gotten worse since last update. Even the RARDEN APDS is starting to suck, I’ve been getting several shell shatters in a row on paper tanks
