I wan’t to check what the community thinks about changing the BRs and/or adding new vehicles to make a 10.7 BR bracket actually exist besides the T-90A in the Soviet tech tree.
I have an idea for the US and USSR tech tree, I’m currently talking about this with my squadron members and wanted to see if you guys even care about this.
Firstly the USA
For the US tech tree we could lower the IPM1 and the HSTV-L to 10.7 adding the M-SHORAD to match the Tunguska in spaa duty, and we already have AH-1W as an Heli so this could be a base for more vehicles.
Photo of M-SHORAD with a brief description from squadron member of mine
“ It gets two AGM-114L Longbow Hellfire missiles, four FIM-92 Stingers, and a 30mm autocanon”
And now for the USSR
You only need to raise the BR of the 2S25M tbh, and to bridge the gap for a TT light tank that isn’t an squadron vehicle (looking at you BMP-2M) there’s an option for the BTR-90 with an BMP-2M turret
Or the BMP-3M
As the Soviet TT already has the Mi-35M as an heli at 10.7 and the Tunguska and the T-90A.
As for Germany…
So here’s why I made this post, see if you all had any suggestions for Germany or if you liked this idea at all
Also making this concept happen would open new opportunities for new vehicles for the minor nations! Like France and Japan to get new vehicles to bridge the gap from 9.7 to straight up just top tier!
Yeah HSTVL at 10.7 would be very bad news for 10.0 and 9.7. Furthemore, how would the 2S25M be 10.7 material, sure it has 3BM60 but thats not even that crazy for that BR, meh mobility, and zero armor. Maybe 10.3 but not 10.7. But the idea of having a working 10.7 lineup would be nice.
HSTVL to 10.7 is like putting 2S38 back to 9.7.
And I fought hard to get IPM1 its M900, I don’t want it removed just cause you want it to be 10.7, it’s fine where it is.
What if, hear me out, it kept M900 at 10.7? I don’t see why it would need to loose it to go down, also having 23 75MM rounds is shit compared to the 2S38 what are you yapping about
Agreed, but the 2S25M still will do fine at 10.7… just limits the absurdly OP 10.0 Russian line up a bit (I’m talking with the experience of having all 10.0 premiums + BMP-2M + Su-25K)
…so is the T-90A? I don’t see a point in a 0.3 BR difference, no one plays the IPM1 anyway because at 11.3 you get the M1A1 which is straight up better.
Also if the HSTV-L is so good how come you NEVER see a single soul playing that thing at 11.3?
Don’t bother arguing with people that only have enough brain cells to go “weapon make vehicle good”, and can’t comprehend any of the other factors that go into gameplay beyond that fact.
Cause people don’t have it, and light tanks in general are not meta and have never been meta the way people play them. I don’t see 2S38s anywhere near as common either cause most players learned to deal with it.
M1A1 is a sidegrade to IPM1. Same armor, heavier, slightly better round.
There are multiple factors besides your argument that gun = everything. @TribbleFluffer made my take for me:
What if, hear me out, we just moved them there cause it would make them better? The IPM1 isn’t a side grade considering a lot of IPM1s were converted to M1A1 standards when that version of the abrams was put into service, cause the 105 was a cost cutting measure for the project.
it’s an worse gun than the 120 period, it would not be OP at 10.7 with M900 cause the T-90A exists, and the 2S38 is still one of the most SPAMMED 10.0 vehicles, because it’s a good light tank with a good cannon with good shells that can do work as an SPAA too at short ranges, those are things that the HSTV-L CAN’T do with 26 rounds of ammo, so it’s fair it goes down to 10.7 without any changes made to both vehicles, they wouldn’t be OP.
And this would open a new BR bracket instead of jumping from 10.0 to 11.3 and making that transition easier, also opening an opportunity for minor nations to get MORE vehicles added cause they have modern stuff that simply can be added to 10.7 cause it doesn’t compare to 11.7 vehicles
Honestly I’d rather they de-gimp the vehicle to it’s historical performance, such as reducing reload time to 1s rather than ahistorical 1.5s, increase penetration to equal M774 etc. and increase it’s BR instead.
I’m sorry, I don’t see it. The M-SHORAD would be a slight upgrade over LAV-AD mainly due to search radar. Hellfire is also very sad kinematically, maybe useful against drones but certainly not aircraft.
Both types of radar are next to useless against helos:
Regular search/track (SRC) is easily disrupted by terrain and chaff
Velocity search/track (PD) can’t see the helo because it’s not moving fast enough, and unlike IRL it can’t see the massive rotor blade signature.
Laser guided hellfires would be good against helos though, but I’m not sure if the M-SHORAD has that capability
Stingers are already very mediocre at 10.0. Unless Gaijin increases G-overload and adds UV channel to seeker like the real missile has I don’t see it holding a candle to 2S6
