no
since when is 12.3 top tier?
He meant top tier premium for China, akin to something like the Bison or M1A1 Click-Bait.
I would’ve personally preferred a SU-30MKK for China as a top tier premium, would’ve been similar to the new Venezuelan SU-30MK2.
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no he is talking about the CM disclosure in which they said that they are working on a new top tier jet for china
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In simulation mode, you will be beaten by the F-18s (US and UK) and the Bison in 12.3. And don’t even mention the Mirage.
That is why we have and will continue to have few pilots flying Chinese aircraft at this level.
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Yo are we being fr ✌️✌️🥀🥀
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It will be food, in fact, and will be attacked by F-18s, Bisons, and if France stays on the blue side, it will still have the Mirage being in 12.3. Because if you analyze it well, it already has the JH-7A from TT, and I don’t see pilots flying with that there.
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On 12.3 you have to fight with F-20A, F/A-18A, F-16A and Mirage-2000CS-4 basicaly you’re free food for them. And ye on 12.3 also are Tornados and Harriers GR.7 but overral that FM isn’t good for 12.3
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Free food for F-20A?
It has a bit of advantage, but JH-7A is already above average for 12.3, even more so when you remove F-16A and F-18A, which should be a higher BR but aren’t due to 13.0’s compression.
Fuel was normalized to around how much you’d have on first or 2nd engagement. About 22 minutes for F-20, 30 for JH-7A, and 23 for Mirage 2000.
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2 degrees per second STR isnt a bit, its alot
i also want to see you keep track of someone in a Df with the cockpit of the JH-7 and how deep you sit in it
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For 1v1s it’s a lot.
For air RB, as long as you’re part of a wolf pack it’s a disparity that can result in issues, but is manageable.
This is my cockpit setting for simulator: Though I’m unsure if I’ve had an opportunity to play it there yet.
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this whole convo was about sim
Every tree gets a Hornet or Flanker or Fulcrum for premium, yet China couldn’t get any pack with even SARH let alone ARH.
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Dude, it’s 2025. They changed their stance over 3 years ago.
Also 12.3 is also far away from 14.3.
is the lower br JH-7(not JH-7A) still 11.3 at dev server? its a little insane having 2 irccm msls at 11.3 with supersonic and decent airframe…
one similar example is jaguar IS at 11.3 with 2 magic2s, but jaguar has worse airframe and less power and speed.
ye sorry i was completly drunk yesterday. I thought we ware just talking about the JH-7 in general will all the pl-12 stuff written
The Chinese air tech tree lacks top-tier fighters, and the ground forces have no CAS. What’s the point of buying this bundle? Especially when it’s just a pure reskin.
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not a bug
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If you don’t include the J-10C, J-15T, J-11BG, and J-16, who would buy this lousy package?
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