With the last update there’s more varied weather and less clear sky so if we got a feature that can rarely be used when it’s the only counter to helis, then that is worrisome for sure.
While the 35G is going to be great for aircraft, I think you still could do fine against them with the Type 93 provided you wait for a good launch angle. In that respect, I think the Type 81 doesn’t help top tier Japan much, especially since the Type 93 will also be getting the electro-optical mechanic.
After quite a bit of testing I think the Type 81 will be fairly decent.
Pros: Good range, was able to hit targets around 8-9km, Good Pull and AoA not sure if it’s quite 35G but pulled some impressive shots off, 1s Seeker warmup, Pretty flare resistant as long as the target isn’t preflaring or completely saturating the area with flares, if not flared off its almost a guaranteed kill, Truck has pretty good mobility.
Cons: Has a similar flight path as the stingers as it like to arc down a bit when first fired, Helis still struggle to be locked, against a Tiger UHT I couldn’t lock until it was under 3km, When you do get a lock the heli MAW seems effective at flaring off the missile, Tracking seems a bit unfinished as it really likes to over lead the target and has to correct hard before it hits, cant lock Ka-52 and Mi-28NM in IR mode.
Will do more testing if the optical mode gets added but my general impression is positive even if it won’t solve every problem.
As long as i tested it it is pretty resistant to flares indeed and has a good pull but strange path, can’t shoot target at low angle as the missile leads to ground very hard, good missile speed and range, no radar and first gen TVD
i like it, not ideal but good.
Yeah you gotta fire the missile up when engaging low targets so it doesn’t hit the dirt, I’m also hoping it gets better thermals since its more modern than the Type 93.
The lack of radar is unfortunate but at least we are used to using the mk 1 eyeball by now after all these years with the Type 93 lol.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Gish3gg7fUWA
The 7.1 on the 81C page refers to live ammunition and exercise ammunition, meaning that all sentences with the number 7.1.x are common. And only 7.1.1, 7.1.5.1 and 7.1.5.2 clearly separate the difference between ARH and image+IR guidance. If ARH can only be fired by a UTDC, then it should be pointed out at 7.1.2.
Agreed, as I wrote in the discussion page on Type 81, if 7.1.2(2) only talks about IRH missiles, you cannot use ARH missiles even if you have a radar vehicle: it is silly, but according to his argument, ARH missiles do not have “flight and guidance” function, and can only provide “Up-To-Date Guidance” (of course, active radar homing is not possible… because ARH missile do not have the ability to lock on to a target!).
Honestly, for me its the biggest problem. Cause well, if Ka-52 still remains invincible for Japan line-up - its quite sad
Hopefully when the optical mode is added it will solve this issue.
New radar homing missile is added.
Whats obvious is either it goes up in br… with that missile… or suffers lol
Or maybe they will make separate type81 with ARH missiles, silly but easier to manage balancing problems
If they were going to go the separate vehicle route, then the C should just be given the ARH and go up in BR while a Type 81 or Type 81(B) with KCU is added in the spot the C currently occupies.
Actually I would consider this the most ideal route as the Type 81/(B) KCU is an older style without thermals and would have less IRCCM capability which could still at either 9.3 as a side grade to the Type 93 or depending on how strong the new contrast seeker system is, a 9.0.
While I agree that such a proposal is attractive and appropriate to fill the BR gap, there is a critical problem with the early Type 81. That is simply that there is no place where it can be modeled as a sighting machine. In (C), the launcher is equipped with a sensor, so the actual place to see its image is limited to outside the vehicle, but that is where it was modeled as a sighting device. However, in the early Type 81, there is no sighting device on the vehicle because the sighting without the radar vehicle is viewed directly by the sighting device placed outside. Therefore, there is no place on the vehicle that can be modeled as a sighting device.
I mean the C model, only on the earlier Type 73 truck chassis. The distinction would only be to have it visually interesing. Otherwise it would be a Type 81C without ARH missiles and maybe with earlier SAM-1 missiles as I believe it could fire those. Sorry for the confusion.
Here it is on the older chassis, still a C variant
This is the one we are getting this update, on the newer truck chassis
Since there is no page for the Type 19 Armored Wheeled Self-Propelled 155mm Ammunition Weapon (Type 19AWSP), I am writing here. The JGSDF’s official Twitter page has released a photo of the Type 19AWSP’s direct sight firing training. I think this photo will contribute greatly to the implementation of the Type 19AWSP.
I would like a Type 19, but it only has a range of motion of 117°, 90° to the left and 27° to the right 。・。
Direct aiming and firing is only possible for 40° left 50°-90°.；；
This would be interesting to look at again AH-1S should have IRCM
Gave me a boner when I saw the turret turned ♥
