Jets with IRCCM is just unfair at 11.3 (SU-39, A10C, Jaguar IS, SU-25) There needs to be decompression from 11.0 - 13.0

9M has different IRCCM.

On typical aircraft its flareable, however its nigh impossible on Harriers.

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not even comparable in any way.

Both are aircraft with vastly overheated engines.

you can turn the reheat off on the tomcat, its like its always on with a harrier as all four thrust nozzles act like engine heat sources despite two being cold air only

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Tomcat is also overperforming lol.

The the harrier is like tomcat engines X2

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The harrier doesn’t even produce that much thrust relative to other stuff it meets, because even when hovering it still makes less than a Mig-23 going mach 1. I wonder if it has anything to do with how the flares shoot out, since they seem to go much lower and faster than other aircraft.

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That’s what I was wondering too as the harriers single engine doesn’t make that much compared to twin jets going faster.

Maybe every nozzle makes that much thrust for the harriers

Didn’t gunjob disprove the theory that it’s heat signature is multiplied by 4 because of the 4 nozzles?

I’ve also noticed that the Yak-38 is incredibly hot, so it could be something with vtol aircraft in general.

Is the yak hot? It also doesn’t have flares though

that would mean theres something else more intentional going on

I’ve been able to lock it nearly headon using a Pl-2 from 1km away, and I’ve seen players claim front aspect locks are possible 1km away with Aim-9Js. However, I haven’t seen any hard proof or testing.

It’s issues are lesser because it’s not at a BR where IR missiles are super common.

No it’s not??

You can guess when someone is planning to flare.

You can also fly really high to make yourself less of an IR target.

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The case of Yak-38 is very rare. If he uses the VTOL mode even once, he becomes a massive heat signature himself, as the engines for VTOL are activated.

I don’t know how it is currently, but in the months since Yak-38/Harrier GR.1 was implemented in the game, I have been able to launch at head on against the Yak-38 with my AIM-9B/R-3S, PL-2.

or fly really high to lob an IR missile from an angle they don’t look out for one at

I think what he meant was

Tomcat is also overperforming ‘for creating heat-signatures’

Just like harriers nowaday does.

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IR missiles perform better when fired down at your target from high altitude. They also hit more often. If you fly higher, you only need to worry about radar missiles.

Yes it is in sustained turn performance.

At high speed and high alt it hold much more sustained G than it should.

the issue with Su-39 it’s fat and slow and limited for only 2 R-73 I wish if I never bought it.
Gajin could Add the R-27ER or R-77 for it and its missing systems and move it for higher Br but at the moment it’s not that good also R-73 IRCM works at 1.5km! it’s easy to kill the Su-39
everything out speed it so easy to kill never had issue with killing it !
A-10C way better because it has HMD and advance MAW system but slower + 4 aim 9ms !

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