Jets with IRCCM is just unfair at 11.3 (SU-39, A10C, Jaguar IS, SU-25) There needs to be decompression from 11.0 - 13.0

I suppose the issue might be with jets having IRCCM when they can face jets as early as 10.3.

There seem to be many premiums like this lol.

If you want decompression, then ask for decompression.

Let me change the title lol.

I think this is more fitting as the issue spans a few planes not just 1.

on the harrier its next to impossible because of how gaijin modelled heat signatures on aircraft. Harrier is one of the hottest burning planes in game when it should be one of the coldest of its BRs. as for other aircraft you need to spam a load of flares and you don’t get too many that low down

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Having the CM fires off in sets of 2 does not help the issue as you have very limited pre flaring windows.

I dont have too big of an issue with head on missiles as I bait out head ons very early to avoid it (unless I know I can gun them) but I shouldn’t have to chicken out as early as I do

Nah you should get 60 flares not 30 lol

you flared too late.

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cant really afford to preflare too hard in a FRS1. you get 30 flares and 30 chaff. they go real fast

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My guy I don’t know if you can see it but I was flaring before he even fired the missile.

Even still I flared before launch. You can see my 2 flares far left.

First death that is lol.

It is.

I could somehow agree with you, but cmon. These jets undeperform almost everthing they faced.
If you cant outturn and kill Su-39/25, A-10, Jaguar with your Harrier maybe you just doing something wrong?

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The IRCCM can be easily countered if done right.

For FoV IRCCM, you should be able to flare them like any other missile from front-aspect. I have fired r73s at jets from less than 2km out head-on and they got flared.
For rear-aspect, once they get within about 2-2.5km, you cant really flare it.

For seeker shut-off IRCCM, flare then change direction.

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IRCCM is complete random💩💩

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The first video is aim9l which doesnt have IRCCM.

Where is the missile in the second one?

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Fine then🫴

No surprised. Having the afterburner on makes flaring very hard to do.

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Agreed. I hate these things.

This IRCCM issue is pretty much only a problem with the harrier. Ive had no issue outside of that. These aircraft with IRCCM are NOT that strong, they have pretty awful flight performance and staying high and not showing your rear to them is fine. They have IRCCM to make up for their abysmal flight performance compared to the roster. Putting them higher just means nobody touches them with a 10 foot pole

Fix how IR signature works ingame, and if you spot a SU-39 just stay outside of 5km (if youre in a harrier) or engage him with caution and pre-flare. once youre super close unless the SU39 has the skill advantage and is able to stick guns on, youll outturn, outspeed and out AOE him when you eventually end up on the rear. same with the Jaguar, A10C and the rest

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