Tried multiple times but still occurs.
Note, this happens when you try to bring Aim-9L+Aim-9M and 1000LBS bomb Loadout.
Need to attach a screenshot of your loadout then because I tried the variations and I couldn’t repeat it.
And a screenshot of your modifications unlock page too.
Just logged in, looks like loadout is working properly?
Im quite confused, how can this happen in the first place?
Anyway you can close the bug report, it seems reopening the game fixed the issue.
¯_(ツ)_/¯ Glad its working though, normally deleting loadouts helps with these kind of issues.
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I tried multiple times and gave up eventually, anyway im glad issue is solved.
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@Gunjob I found a new bug.
Apprently if you equip 4 AGM65G’s there is a visual bug where extra countermeasures on left rail doesnt appear, however this bug doesnt occur on other Maverick models.
Since its just a visual bug, should we report it?
Bug is a Bug
Yes needs reporting.
Not sure this is where the discussion belongs, however, I recently found out about the MLUs for the C/D Gripen made in 2004, 2005, 2009 and 2016. Allegedly these MLUs are known as “Materielsystem” (abbrv. “MS”) and a suffixed number. The specific ones for the 39C/D were MS17, 18, 19, and 20.
According to my one and only source (Wikipedia citing Ny Teknik article from 2011), the changes in the respective MLUs were:
- Improved avionics, colour displays, more fighter weapons.
- New datalinks, reconnaissance pod with advanced digital camera, better radar and system for communication and landing, new system for electronic warfare and air-to-air refueling.
- Improved night-flying, up to 8 hour sorties, Robot 98 [IRIS-T], protection against homing missiles, new bombing system, and NATO-datalink Link 16.
- Robot 101 [Meteor], GBU-39 [Small-Diameter Bomb, SDB], improved CBRN protection, Ground Collision Avoidance System (GCAS).
As far as I can tell, what we have in-game right now is a hybrid MS18-MS19 39C Gripen given the absence of Robot 98 (IRIS-T) but presence of NVD modification and reconnaissance pod (presumably LITENING II).
Does anyone else have any more in-depth knowledge or information on the MS19 and MS20 upgrades so we can throw together a suggestion for those MLUs?
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After having visited the Dev Server, I have to make a correction. The current JAS 39C Gripen should be a MS20 Gripen as it has access to the GBU-39 SDB. So as soon as/if we ever get IRIS-T or Meteor, the C Gripen should get those missiles.
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And gaijin converted PS-05/A radar to PS-05/A Mk.3 or PS-05/A Mk 4 in 2025 or 2026 ?
IRIS-T (RB 98) replace RB 74 (M) after decompressed battle rating to 14.3
Hopefully placeholder targeting pod (Litening II) replace with Litening III before major update " Firebirds " drop to main server
At present, Swedish Air Force (Flygvapnet) is a current operator
MBDA Meteor (RB 101) coming to 2027 or 2028, my guess.
but decompressed to 15.0 or 15.3 max
Should and could are two different things, gaijin is more likely to force you to research another C&P gripen C with 1 missile change. I mean this is literally par for the course woth sweden. Viggen, gripen i mean we’ve done it so many times that its not surprising.
Only realiatic way they buff the Gripen C and not give us another C&P gripen or you know another 400k+ rp sink is if we get Danish or Norwegian F16AM’s to replace the missing vehicle the Gripen C will lose.
MK3 radar and targeting pod are the only real differences in game for MS18 as we don’t have EW, datalink or Air to Air refueling right now.
However when datalink is added the MS18 and later models (might be earlier as well but idk) are capable of using the radar as a passive sensor and couple that with all the planes in the group of 4 you can get accurate targeting info that you can fire on without transmitting your own position which would be entirely broken in game haha. You also get increased range with the radars transmitting as well since the 4 radars work together in order to minimise the effect of jamming and such.
For the MS19 the up to 8 hour sorties might be the “upgraded engine” I’ve heard about with it being more fuel efficient but still the same thrust, but I still have not found anyting real regarding that. Other than that the NVG and IRIS-T are the only differences that matter in game as the more improved EWS39 + TIDLS do not currently have a place in game.
MS20 should also have the MK4 radar so up to just under 300km detection range, even better EW suite and datalink, and what you already mentioned as I did in a previous post as well.
Right now we basically have a MS17 (I guess) Gripen C with A2G weapons and targeting camera from MS18 and MS20. A right old mess haha.
Tbf past 10.3 what swedish jet isnt some made up amalgamation of inaccuracies and held together by whatever 2 second wiki answer gaijin could find considering their care for swedish aircraft goes about as far as reading what the subreddit thinks is correct.
What do you mean with C&P Gripen?
And as I have stated sometime earlier is that there could definetly be 3 different JAS 39C versions in game due to their capabilities being so different.
1st: MS18 version (basically what we have now but with an improved radar and without JDAM’s and GBU-39).
2nd: MS20 version with IRIS-T and Meteor and all the A2G stuff we have now + GBU-49 as well.
3rd: MS21 version which I think would be close to the performance of the 39E’s avionics but with fewer hardpoints as it is still a 39C airframe and slightly less effective EW suite.
The differences in these 3 variations are very large so they could definetly be in very different BR’s.
The MS21 variant however I could see fit to be foldered in under the MS20 when the 39E comes along.
yeah that is true, many planes are thrown together very strangely with missing capabilites and armaments
To gaijin the only change needed to warrant a new vehicle is a missile, additionally i have no interest in playing a gripen C with only the missile being different because thats how gaijin works. Actually thinking they’d care even the slightest amount is very optimistic. Regardless knowing how gaijin handles swedish aircraft im against most nearly identical C&P additions. Dont even get me started on the Gripen A and the abomination its supposed to be. Or the current C model. Unless they plan on foldering these “new” gripens id rather not see them added.
Additionally goind forward more hard points will be something that will hold the plane back, especially with the current C’s engine it will be held back. I really dont have interest in playing ACE combat at top tier with with 6 missiles for the most part but i digress, thats not really that bad for me. My only gripe will be getting 400k side grades that wont be that much better than what we currently have. A radar being the only major change just isnt special imo and doesn’t warrent another eventual 500k rp grind when gaijin has yet to prove they give even a single care about the swedish air tree.
So far there track record is ground is the love child and air is the forgotten step child lol.