JAS-39E for Sweden

If you cannot grasp that flogging the horse until it barely resembles a horse and instead a tourist attraction for the deranged is going to narrow the scope negatively, I really don’t think you’re able to engage with this soundly.

I am not saying it is bad to action it, but it has been actioned to the extent it can be, unless by some miracle you happen to be on the development team or the artist behind the asset. The people who are going to raise it as a shared issue already have, and will see it as the comment gets updated so will in the future assuming they’re invested enough to raise a shared issue. The people who won’t aren’t going to won’t be convinced by the Nth response over a very narrow topic.

I am all for actioning reports to the greatest extent we are able, and we have done so. Chewing into the breadth of scope of arguably more functional reports by focusing on a narrow subset of aesthetic ones (unless by some miracle gaijin does modify the FM to account for it) does you, and the rest, a disservice. What can be done has been done, it is not hard to grasp.

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Since I’ve already conceded to your evidently definitive grasp of the matter, I’ll simply step aside. The contours of the discussion appear, in practice, to be indistinguishable from the limits of your own conclusions. In any case, do have a pleasant day.

I personally don’t see the trailing edge flap as a shallow problem, it’s something that increases control surface area and possibly changes the flight model a bit as a result of that.

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Assuming they bother, then sure. But having seen their treatment, I doubt they will bother.

Though again, what can be done has been done. Flogging it to paste is not going to manifest it, otherwise a myriad number of things would not be the way they are.

Still wrong, Saab says it has 98kN which is 9993 kgf

Can someone explain to me why the increase from Max Static Thrust to Max Thrust is so small, only about 11%, compared to other fighters with similar airframes like the J-10C, F-16C, Eurofighter, or Rafale? Those have increases from at least 33% up to 47%.
This gives the Gripen E a disadvantage in acceleration and speed, since the improvement from the C to the E feels very small. It takes way too long to reach supercruise speed at sea level, and only to get to Mach 1.02.

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I think that part is by default, if a surface area increases it will effect the flight model, the question is more of how much. (I’m not entirely certain about this though)

This i do agree with though.

Channel loss.

Channel loss

Wdym

In theory gripen E should be better in both sustained and both in insta turn?

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Its the airflow loss between intake and engine

Yes

If crying from the belfries worked, I would have manifested Mmw Brimstones and Exocet by now. Would love if it did, but we have to keep our wits and make sure we focus the breadth of errors in the representation, instead of honing in on just a few.

Is someone able to test if the gripen e Can supercruise? Sources say it should be able to supercruise at mach 1.1 with missiles

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Just woke up. Nice

Just guessing here but either it’s not yet finished in that departement or it’s due to the relatively small intakes compared to the others. The reason thrust goes up at speed is the increase in air that goes through the intakes. Less intake area less effect from speed increased. But again, just an of the top of my head guess.

@Gunjob Could you take a look at this report? Community Bug Reporting System

A this moment only reaches Mach 1.02 with just 6 missiles and 20 minutes of fuel

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but the channel loss is 1.5% in gripen C and Gripen E intakes are identical so i think the channel loss should be smaller

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