Uh oh giga boom stick
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best new pics and additional info on the XAAM-2 that have been found so far. credit to @tanuki10 for finding the post
https://x.com/hunini181202/status/1723508123372277983?s=20
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Does AAM-3 has a reduced visibility motor like the 9M?
Im not sure i don’t believe so however. At least i haven’t found anything regarding that.
Its pros will be high manuverability and good IRCCM if gaijin models that of course tho taking a mix of 9Ms and AAM-3s might be pretty nice.
So bit late but AAM-3s are here. Currently they are more like better AIM-9Ms
Here is a nice post about some of its capabilities
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/18dalr7/aam3_potential_performance/
Also i think Currently the AAM-3 has its seeker on the 3d model covered when it should be like this:
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Vs how it currently is
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(Also yes used his thumbnail sorry)
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bug report made for the seeker cover
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/jtFZ1PJWh0ZY
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A small post about the supposedly “3 times wider off-boresigth” capabilities of the AAM-3 over the AIM-9L.
First and foremost the AIM-9L has a 45° gimbal. But that does not mean the AAM-3 has 3*45° gimbal = 135° gimbal
Indeed its litteraly imposible to have +90° gimbal when you look at picture of the seeker position.
What i think it means is a “3 times bigger circle of what the missile see”.
At 2km:
The gimbal of the AIM-9L is 45° meaning it’ll see a circle with a radius of 1657m at 2km. The area of this circle will be PI*(1657)^2= 8.6 * 10^6 meter square
The gimbal of the AAM-3 currently modelled is 60° meaning it’ll see a circle with a radius of 2309m at 2km . The area of this circle will be 1.67 * 10^7 meter quare.
If we do 1.67 * 10^7/8.6 * 10^6 we get a 1.94, meaning the circle the missile see at 2km is 2 times bigger.
If we do the same at 3km:
Aim-9L: radius =2485 m, Area = 1.9410^7
AAM-3: radius = 3464 m, Area = 3.7710^7
3.77/1.94=1.94
If we do the same at 5km:
Aim-9L: radius =4142 m, Area = 5.3910^7
AAM-3: radius = 5773 m, Area = 1.0410^8
1.04 * 10^8/5.39 * 10^7= 1.92
So from calculus with the 60° HOBS of the AAM-3 actually implemented in game we only get a “2 times bigger circle”.
If we want a “3 times bigger circle” then:
For 2km, area of the AAM-3 circle = 3*area of the AIM-9L circle → area of the AAM-3 circle = 2.58 * 10^7 m^2.
→ radius of the circle = 2866m → gimbal of the seeker = 71.25°.
It’s a lot better than the 45° you can find on the 9L but still a lot more reasonnable than the 135° gimbal.
*I just used random distance values (ie 2km for the gimbal calculacion) because the relation between the size of the circle of both missile didn’t changed mutch with the distance so i simplified it and assumed it was proportional.
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Im more of a IJA and IJN fan myself but you moderners do your thing
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Why not just make it a thread for anything Japanese? Restricting it to the Japanese Self-Defense Force doesn’t make much sense.
Because it would be just to much. Also im more knowledgeable on post war Japan. If you look at my lists there is a bunch of info and weapons listed and thats not even all of it, i have also yet to update the OP due to being busy with IRL. By all means if you want to make a WW2 Japan thread then do so.
I dont mind if people talk about ww2 japanese weapons here too though.
Another thing is this thread is relly more of a catalog of weapons and some info and new developments found.
That shouldn’t be a reason to only focus on Post war when your thread’s title is Japanese Weapons Master Thread it doesn’t apply that this is specifically only Post War Japan. Also just cause you are knowledgeable of Post War doesn’t mean we aren’t knowledgeable about Japan in the past. Both work like Cup noodles and an egg. Smooth and Consistent. Fair enough though. Not going to argue about this honestly since it makes no sense.
I mean yeah thats why i said i dont mind ww2 talk here
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Purchase of AIM-9X Blk.II and AIM120C-8 can be confirmed by DSCA
JAPAN – AIM-9X BLOCK II SIDEWINDER MISSILES
JAPAN – AIM-120C-8 ADVANCED MEDIUM-RANGE AIR-TO-AIR MISSILES (AMRAAM)
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i guess it’ll be used for the F-35?
i don’t think AAM-5 can fit inside.
anyone know size comparison between them?
Ahh thanks!
AAM-5
Mass
95 kg (209 lb)
Length
3.105 m (10.19 ft)
Diameter
130 mm (5.1 in)
Wingspan
440 mm (17 in)
But cant find much on AIM-9X
I dont think its in issue with internal problems since F-35s carry their AIM-9X on 2 wing pylons
Im not sure if it is a software issue, or if the pylons the F-35 uses is not compatible with AAM-5
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Could also be an issue with the missle itself, I read somewhere that they had to specifically modify the Aim9s for the F35 since they normal start their motor to propel themselves off the rail which of course doesn’t work with an internal missle bay so they had to build in a delay that actually allowed the missle to drop down before starting its engine
Found where I got it from
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What do you guys think of ohka for the game https://forum.warthunder.com/t/yokosuka-mxy-7-ohka-the-rocket-kamikaze/65155 ?
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Very unlikely it will get added and to be honest I’d rather see more of the Japanese “wonder weapons” like the Ki-147 which is a version of the Ki-148 we have in-game but with an 800kg warhead, Ke-Go IR homing bomb and even the Funryu AAM if the could be mounted on aircraft.
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Radio controled via AWSD are so terrible to control and you have to get very close that it is more suicical than actual kamikaze. Ohka is just way better and out fo those wonder weapons was only one really used and proven effective when realeased. All those radio controled missiles had very short range and would not be effective irl as even Ohkas has problems of getting to the range even so they had it like 4 times greater.