Japan Su-27

no, simply gaijin could’ve introduced a nerfed F-2 prototype and buff it in future patches, like the italian F-16ADF not having TWS and amraams/aim-9L/I-1. the fact they created a whole fake plane just because japan wanted something they didn’t have now put other nations in the right to ask for the same treatment, cannot wait to see the “proposed” F-15 for italy :)

cannot wait to have the “proposed” italian F-15 for the TT!

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1 Soviet jet I do agree is the Mig-25 Japan captured thanks to a certain pilot. Of course the US dismantled it for the sake of studying but it did fall in the hands of Japan first. Most likely should be a event vehicle though.

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It was never flown by Japanese pilots, it was only ever evaluated by the U.S. and shipped back to the Soviet Union in pieces.

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The Japanese did own it until it was given back to the Soviets.

It would also be interesting to have a choice of what nation the MiG-25 coupon would get activated to, being USA, USSR and Japan. Along with a good choice of other vehicles with a similar feature this could be an event with rewards for all nations.

But yeah, I doubt Gaijin would do a joke at the cost of the Soviets anytime soon. As funny as a “take apart Belenkos MiG-25P” event would be, it’s unlikely.

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With what limited information they have, they could just model AESA as an either instant sweeping PD radar that can’t be notched with TWS scanning multiple targets on the HUD instead of just the radar display.

F-2 Early only has AIM9Ls/AAM-3 and AIM-7Ms and the Sparrows, even with an AESA radar, don’t have any data link or anything. Meaning, even if you can’t notch the radar, they’ll still fall for chaff when notched or cold, same as now with PD radars. Heck even PD radars now are updated to still track notching targets above the horizon so it seems like Gaijin is already progressing towards AESA, gameplay wise.

They could just bring the XF-2A with PD radar from the F-16C and update it to prototype J/APG-1 when they feel they’re ready as well. Considering we have AAM-3 on F-15J, they wouldn’t even have to nerf the XF-2A at all.

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Japan never had the Su-27 in service and while they did test it, did not gain any technical data from it. That was of importance compared to vehicles from a different period cough cough Germany in WW2. They gained a lot of technical information from it.

One more thing that picture of 3 of them is most likely concept art, not a real picture. Especially since you wrote 2xxx rather than the actual year it was taken. In simple terms a red flag that it’s a real photograph.

So no they do not need it in-game, it makes no sense to give them it and it’s clear the deal never went through.

No single reason for Japan to have Su-27,…

Having interest to an aircraft doesn’t mean it should be added in,…

Just wait for your Mitsubishi F.2 and AAM-4/5 ^^"

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No,…
Testing an aircraft is different from buying it.

Heavy Tank No°6 was bought from germany, even if it never reached Japan shores,…

SU-27 trials were made in russia,… and only were trials conducted under russian supervision.

Even i hate Russian tech tree to the core I still found this ridiculous Japanese SU-27??? let put the stop and let them have some unique

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I understand, but it’s not about simply adding another missile to an existing jet. Japan has a barebones top tier for its air tech tree; furthermore, they are all American jets with modifications. I would like to see something more unique, like the Flanker or the Mistubishi F2.

It’s a sorry excuse, but the amount of vehicles Sweden gets away with getting is simply unacceptable. Surely, gaijin should give Japan and other minor tech trees the same preferential treatment Sweden gets?

That was on the MiG-25P, which Viktor Belenko fled the Soviet Union with. It was captured by Japan and lent to the US for examination before before being returned the the Soviet Union.

It’s more of an unlikely joke addition for an event than a real proposal, but still has some basis to it, as Japan actually owned it at some point.

It wouldn’t be meta in any way, and considering this is a “Japan Su-27” post it seems comparatively reasonable for a joke addition.

I am pretty sure you meant MiG-25P instead of Su-25

However, I do believe the proposed Su-27J is more justified than the F-16AJ as an addition, especially since the current F-16AJ is pure fantasy and not even based on the real proposal.

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I did, thanks for correcting.

I agree when it comes to the AJ comparison.

I really don’t like the way they added the F-16AJ. It is a perfect example for the reason peolle dislike paper vehicles. It not being built gave Gaijin the freedom to alter the design based on assumptions that directly contradict the information we have and turn it into a fictional aircraft with only loose connection to historic designs.

I wouldn’t mind some of the interesting paper designs or proposals (like the F-15FX or F-2 Super Kai) at some point if Gaijin stuck to what information they had instead of made up “what if” situations, but that seems to not be the case for now.

I’ll stay neutral on the Su-27J. It sounds funny and with trial vehicles so normalized by Sweden is technically viable in the context of the game, but I don’t really see a need for it either and would rather see real Japanese or subtree options instead.

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Ok but add the cv90 to USSR as well as centauro 105 and 120 one do not forget about freccia Iranian f14 f5 they got from Vietnam Bradley etc etc

The CV and Centauro make sense (well, if the su-27 got added to japan, which it shouldn’t be), but what does the Iranian F-5/14 have to do with Russia? They got it from the US
If your argument for that is the missile they carry, we might as well add the J-8F to Israel

F5 came from Vietnam and was captured and sent to USSR

Don’t forget the Iranian f-14a in the Israeli tree for the lols

I think that after the F-2A is added, the F-16AJ should be hidden like the Panther II was. It should be a rare relic.

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I think they should change it to a Thai F-16 when such subtree comes around. That way it could keep the 12.0 BR filled and provide the ground attack aid.

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