American short 90mm APCR is actually quite underrated, being able to frontally penetrate Panthers at fairly far ranges, and doing decent amount of damage (albeit not as good as regular AP).
You can quite reliably get both the gunner and driver, rendering them completely incapacitated, unlike with APHE, where it’s quite unlikely that you can get both the gunner and driver, or get their ammo.
Such a shame that the 5.7 T1E1, with the short 90mm, doesn’t get the APCR round…
No apds on the tortoise. And 19 kph doesn’t equal the jagdtiger but sure the tortoise has better reverse, and we’ve long since left the mobility territory (noone is babbling about it rn)
Ohh do you perceive it that way, i usually think of around as ±0.3 in war thunder.
Were talking about sabot.
Why do we need to only talk about Sabot?
If the main purpose of this argument is ‘Jagdtiger has op armour’, then it shouldn’t matter what type of round it dies to.
Umm sir can you let the engagement range be default please?
Default is rarely the engagement range of most scenarios in most maps. It’s around 10m to 300m.
Only on long-range maps (like sands of sinai) should you be considering 500m to be the average.
300m is about average. Any further and you can just go back into cover.
Some guy mentioned it i was replying. So let me sum it up, the topic is not that jagdtiger has op armor or not.
Tortoise having inferior shells mobility and armor makes it a contender for 6.3. that’s the flow of the conversation.
Then I personally would not take out the jagdtiger on most maps then.
Quite unlikely for a vehicle this size and weight.
This topic was never about the jagdtiger, jagdtiger is helping as the support character for the struggling main character with out of league opponents.
That’s an M26, which is what my reply was about. More than capable of getting back into cover, even with a slower reverse than the tortoise.
Hence why the Tortoise and Jagdtiger are similar in performance at the BR of 6.7.
Tortoise is generally more useful at closer ranges, and much more useful in downtiers than the Jagdtiger.
I personally would not take out the tortoise without hills as well coz i have not seen a casemate this green before lol
The better gun depression on the Tortoise (-10 degrees) also helps with that, compared to the Jagdtiger (which only has -7 degrees).
Yes it does coz without it tortoise is just a rp/sp/sl producing machine lol
Dont forget that the jadgtiger can only use its depression if you are aiming forward. Aiming to the side will limit its gun depression.
Tortoise does beat the jadgtiger in gun depression and gun traverse angles.
I’m just tired
Meanwhile Ho-Ri prototype also at 6.7:
-About same mobility as JagdTiger with bit better power to weight ratio (10.8 vs 9.3hp/ton). However the lack of neutral steering makes it practically far worse, since turning is essential for turretless barns.
-Gun about the same as 8.8 L/71, except slower reload.
-Armor far worse than any heavy tank or heavy TD. Only thing which can’t go through the superstructure front is a rarely met Jumbo 75, which can still go through transmission plate.
