Doesnt the tortoise fire the tog’s round but faster?
T28 beats it in fire power but it is slower and has like 50mm of side armor.
They just need to bring in those aphe changes. It would fix the tortoise’s weak spots.
It was not an attack on ur identity. I said it without malice but fine.
Why didn’t they change aphe and sabot together. As it stands now they made one “realistic” while the other is a 100% killshot. The balance is needed maybe bump it up again when the aphe changes come along but we don’t know when it’ll happen if ever.
We are supposed to have the live server test for new aphe at some point. I suspect they are waiting until after the holiday season. After that, there isnt much going on so it would be a decent time to run the test.
I just hope that it gets enough votes to be added to regular mm. The change would be welcomed by a good number of tanks.
Considering the enemies you face it is an okay round. You still shooting the same weakspots as everyone else but the fact that aphe one-shots at those spots while you are not sure if it can reliably take out the gunner to save ur life.
I will have to run the tortoise again but i have not had any issues with the tog. It is technically the same round so it should perform the same.
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Tog is also a 5.3 vehicle while the tortoise is 6.7 and faces 7.7 often.
I thought this was already voted down?
I am refering to the spall created by the round. Tog is lower but also has less pen do to a lower shell speed.
Ohh i don’t have the tog and can’t check in-game either so i didn’t know. But sure, do try the tortoise and tell me how u feel.
The spall is pretty nice on it. For an ap shell that is.
I will play it for a bit. I still have to grind that last task for the grind event :(
I haven’t played the Jagdtiger or the Tortoise but I can tell you that the Jagdtiger can be quite scary to fight the Tortoise usually not.
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7 out of 7 is a very tight window I didn’t even start.
The T95 has at the very least 300mm of armour on the front. So it can die to 305mm HEAT-FS from things like the Ru 251.
I agree that the T95 has a better armour profile than the Jagdtiger, as well as having a more useful gun, but the T95 is significantly slower than it, which is the reason why the Jagdtiger is not much lower than the T95.
The Tortoise (although not having APHE) has a more sensible gun. The AP from the tortoise can penetrate most things frontally with relative ease (and can 1-shot fairly reliably if you shoot center mass), as well as having a much quicker reload than the Jagdtiger (8.6s instead of 18.2s).
They are both decent at 6.7, but I wouldn’t say they’re quite practical in most cases you’d find yourself in an actual match.
It’s an ap round it needs extra pen to spall properly and it is hitting the same weakspots as any other gun at this br and it has no HE filler, yeah sure call the gun nice without addressing the disparity.
I have played 3 games. I will post screenshots of the leader boards. I died twice but they were from cas. I was only penned in the first game, top screen shot.
Aren’t those downtiers?
Again, you don’t acknowledge that the Jagdtiger has a 18.2s reload, which is much worse than the Tortoise’s. Most places you shoot are the same as that with the Tortoise, this is true. However, you can shoot the turret of the Tiger II H and fairly often overpen and detonate the ammunition behind the crew. Most APHE rounds would only take out the turret crew and no more, requiring at least two shots to kill.
You wouldn’t have many issues with dealing with the UFP of T34s with the 94mm gun either, and I can tell you that there are quite a few that struggle with doing that consistently (if the T34 angles), such as the Tiger II H and T-44.
Tortoise also has a much better horizontal guidance than most TDs at this BR (-20 / +20 degrees compared to -10 / +10 degrees with the Jagdtiger).
This means that you can angle your armour and have to worry less about not being able to get gun on target after getting your transmission / engine taken out, unlike with the Jagdtiger.
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so far, it has been 7.0, 6.7, and 6.7. i guess beginers luck on the mm.