Because its not that good???
Its a brick
It compresses hard.
Yet P51H can stay at its br.
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Its 6.7 simply cause dumb US players headoning it and then dying.
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US players, Germ players every player. Japanese Mains often or not have a higher skill ceiling compared to other nations this isn’t to discredit those who are incredibly good with other nations but the majority of those who are mains of said nation just aren’t good.
The 20mm P-51 isn’t bad however if you were to use it at higher BRs you have a lot more factors to consider.
J6K1 is slow though. And those 6 cannons are HEAVY.
I dont own it but it definitely doesnt have Mk22 Spitfire levels of performance and simply having 6 cannons arent going to kill any faster than the 4x Mk5 Hispanos on those high tier Spits or even the 4x M3 cannons that late war American fighters like the Bearcat get.
If “more dakka” was that important in BR placement then there are plenty of other planes that should be a good 1.0 higher than they currently sit by that logic.
Lots of guns on a bad platform doesnt make an aircraft effective.
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So what? like i pointed out the F89 B has 6x20mm aswell, with better RoF and better ballistics, oh and its got afterburning freaking turbojets ! all while being just one tiny BR step higher, meaning youll verse them almost every game. Also when one single .50 cal in your fuel tank can kill you easily to me the whole ‘but muh dakka’ argument becomes irrelevant.
I gave plenty of reasons why it doesnt belong at its BR in the OP post, if you choose to ignore them thats on you. Its outperformed by superprops that are lower BR than it.
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This is a highly disingenuous statement.
It only reaches 686 km/h at 10 km high. Even still, this is almost 100 km/h slower than the P-51H’s top speed which is achieved 3 km lower.
At sea level, the J6K1 doesn’t surpass 600 km/h, doing about 593 km/h, when you have planes like the F8F, F2G and P-51H which do 670.
If one is to say that the J6K1 is fast simply because of its maximum speed at extremely high altitude, it could also be said that the Fw 190 C is fast because it has a speed up to 685 km/h, even though at sea level it is quite literally just as fast as an A6M5 (Edit: it’s actually slower by 10 km/h).
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Perhaps it’s a case of it being better in Grnd RB where it may be able to destroy more ground targets with heavy armanent. When (if?) they bring different BRs between AirRB and other realistic to lower BRs it may change in AirRB.
For example, Ki-84’s have a big difference in BRs that look only due to armament.
Ki-84 ko , BR 5.3, 2x 12.7, 2x 20mm
Ki-84 otsu, BR 5.7, 4x 20mm
Ki-84 hei, BR 6.3, 2x 20mm, 2x 30mm
From 5.3 to 6.3 and yet has the same airframe/engine… same flight performance, just different guns.
adding to that the j6k1 rips its wings at 750-760 ias
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Japan has some insane BRs.
Ki-84 prop sits at 7.7 in AB as well, ridiculous.
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How is that even physically possible? o_O
Does it have like no engine power at sea level?
Extremely high drag due to turbocharger pouch on a “fairly low power” engine that is fitted with literally the best turbocharger in the game that keeps it from losing almost no horsepower from sea level all the way to 13 km high without ram effect.
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Compared to the example that was given it isn’t. When you drop that plane into Sim or ground RB it excels incredibly well when it is tasked to fight other crafts.
Even in Air RB, performs incredibly well. Sure it’s not as fast as other crafts at the BR but no one is stupid enough to turn it or head on the thing and if you cannot head on it nor turn fight that only leaves one option. One that most don’t do.
And the Hei version isn’t even really worth playing for the armament anymore since they killed off the Ho-155 cannons…
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RIP our 920m/s shell velocity.
At least it did get better belts for GRB though.
Hei never deserved to be 6.3 anyway IMO, the guns even at their peak werent that good enough to justify it on an airframe that is literally identical to the first one. It should be 6.0
Only for the Type 5 30 mm.
The Ho-155 uses AP rounds which, due to the velocity and weight nerfs, penetrate about the same amount of armor as the old practice rounds.
The outcome for the Ho-155 is simply that it got nerfed massively. It is now far slower (700 m/s instead of 920 m/s), the rounds lose velocity faster (less weight, same drag coefficient), they deal less damage (decreased TNT equivalent) and deal damage less reliably (one of the 2 HE rounds has a fuse that doesnt explode on plane skin).
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Yeah, at 10km. An altitude where nobody ever goes. At low alt, the P-51A is faster than the J6K.
And saying it has 6 cannons and 2 HMGs isn’t much of a point, 4x20mm is already overkill unless you’re facing 288s every match. Having that much firepower is just an unnecessary weight increase.
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6 cannons and 2 HMGs are far more firepower than 4 20mm’s. No one is stupid enough to fly into a head-on with the J6K. Nor is anyone going to attempt a Turnfight since their likely bound to lose since they are by all means faster which is a disadvantage for something slower. This only leaves BNZ as a priority option however this still is relatively limited.
Update: You don’t even have the J6K. So by that, any claim you have made is now invalid since you never flew it so you don’t know what you’re talking about.
To be fair, Japan is very powerful in AB, especially the Ki-61s.
7.7 is still kinda bonkers though wtf
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Gaijin doesn’t like touching that BR for some reason, my guess cause the only thing they could add is the 20mm Ohka fighter. Which replaced its explosive warhead with 2 20mm cannon and a fuel tank. With likely Ho-5 20mm Autocannons. Since I doubt they were Type-99’s would fit well into it.