It’s not 11.3/11.7, so no.
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it’s 11.0 all-time vs 12.0 or 11.7 all have Fox1 and in sim, I play sim Air I play only with 12.0 so I think it needs pl-8 and make it 11.3
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it will be nice to see it in-game
Then when 12.3 is added next major, it’ll be uptiered even more.
Or it can stay 11.0 & see only downtiers within a short while.
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Maybe gaijin will consider PL-8s for J-7E with the addition of 12.3
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Y’all are still talking about this??? Y’all are unhinged for thinking the J-7E needs ANY help. The PL-5B’s are cracked, EASILY the best rear aspect IR missiles in-game, it really doesn’t need any more help.
Thats the issue. It doesnt have any BVR or radar missiles so in order to survive at 12.0 or future 12.3 BR it needs better all aspect missiles. 4 great rear aspect missiles arent enough at 12.0 or even 11.X
Radar missiles are easily defeated, and you have flares for IR missiles.
Which means your one circle ability is all that matters.
Its NOT 12.0 or 12.3, its 11.0.
You should not be comparing a jets capability to how viable it is in a full uptier, its simply a victim of being within range of the top BR, which always results in being sucked up.
The argument that itll be even worse when 12.3 comes is idiotic, seeing as it wouldn’t see 12.3 unless it gets uptiered to 11.3 or higher in the first place. We already see this with 10.7 being a very good BR for jets like the F-4F (which is VASTLY inferior to the J-7E in EVERY way except ground strike) simply due to the fact its out of range of 12.0.
You SHOULD be at a disadvantage in a full uptier, because you are BY DEFINITION bottom tier out of the aircrafts in the match.
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Instead of pl8 which are the best short range ir missiles in game, how about the limited all aspect pl5c which is identical expect a slightly more sensitive seeker. Also want to point out pl5’s dont have near as much range as they used to before gaijin changed drag dynamics
WHY?! It already has the BEST rear aspect IR missiles ingame with by FAR the best flight performance at 11.0. Its not missing anything, 11.0 has pretty much always been defined by things either having rear aspect IR missiles, meh SARH’s and meh FM’s, or busted FM’s and rear aspect SARH’s, with a very few jets getting all aspect IR missiles, mainly due to other major downsides like very poor flight performance or middling missiles.
The J-7E is fine as as, as honestly, if it wasnt for the R-27ER, I would be saying its aftually undertiered and needs to go to 11.3 alongside the MLD, F-4J, F-4S, etc…
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Though I myself don’t want it as Gaijin seems to be thinking of giving all-aspect missiles to rank 7 aircraft like AIM-9L for F-4EJ Kai, Python-3 for Kfir C.2/C.7, R-73 for Su-25T/Su-39(soon) so, Sooner or later the PL-8 will come for the J-7E.
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Id rather stick with the pl5 series for the j7 as they are far lighter and also very capable
what about the mirage f1 having none of that and being higher
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The mirage f1 already has its real armament.
yes, two magic 2s and the two worst 30g SARH missiles. With a flight performance bad enough to be worse than the premium it sits around the right corner.
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the problem is not on mirage f1 war thunder nerf Magic 2 so much and the 530 too
When the Magic 2 is fixed the Mirage F1 will have ordinance superior to the Python 3.
As just J7E.