J7D should not be higher than MIG 21 BIS
J7E was crazy op long ago but that was before we even had the Tomcat now it just collects dust not a very op plane now defiantly strong but not op
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top 3 11.3, behind f4e and ja37
yeah its strong but nothing absurd still only got 60 rounds
yeah PL5Bs are good but i still see them getting one flared by planes with FULL BURNER its absurd especially since you have only 4 and 60 cannon rounds which i guess balances its performance
U talking about this but not J-7D at 10.7 with the same missiles, more bullets and insane flight performance? 9.7/10.0 suffers quite a lot thx to them.
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well to be fair the J7E can run circles around the D the D is a copy of a MF with a slightly better engine
PL5B is just a AIM-9J with 10 more G pull its not that crazy as flare resistance is relative
And missiles, and flight performance.
It should at least be 11.0, it has enough characteristics to make it be fair at that BR.
Gaijin should decompress BRs so the J-7E can go to 11.7 without facing Hornet C Early and J-7D can go 11.3 without facing flareless preys.
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a lot of premiums i know do but compression being the way it is cant right now
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From my own experience, AIM-9J doesn’t have flare resistance. I have launched them at all ranges, from 1km to 300m and in any moment they barely get some kind of flare resistance.
They’re just R-60 with more range.
im gonna blow your mind get ready flare resistance without IRRCM is barley noticeble on most missiles depends on like 32 factors like what plane is he is he a F5 thats super cold or is he a F14A thats the sun ive seen MIG 25s 1 flare it on full burner which is just crazy
What about AIM-9L and Python 3? Those get flare resistance at 1km or less.
you can just shotgun people at point blank like 500m even if they are turning by leading and they rarely react in time
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J-7E has far better FM, J-7D should be 11.0
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thats true but ive seen it get flared while im basically in there after burner by F104s its inconsistent on certain planes for some reason min you hes on full burner
i dont understand this game heat sigs make zero sense in this game like why is F5 colder than F117 how do modern helis have 15X better heat sig reduction compared to F117 even tho most dont have IR reduction on them
Btw how did ur AIM-9J get one flares by a MiG-25PD? I used them in the NF-5A against them and their back always get annihilated.
Did it turn off it’s engine?
no clue its rare maybe a fluke i chalked it up to gaijin being inconsistent i fired it like one mile out
Main reason: F-117 isn’t modelled correctly, just like the “stealth” mechanic.
F-5 uses 2 tiny engines, it has such cold engines it can actually make the IRCCM of gatewidth missiles useless cuz flares are always hotter than the engines.
Helis usually use HIRSS, which means the HEAT gets redirectionated from the sides to the back, hiding most of the heat signature like a plane and limiting it to just the rear.
if the size of engines where why it does that then why do missiles get locked so easily