well that is an opinion, that might be valid, that they would be fine at 10.7 but for clarities sake i named the current in game implementation of 10.3, some here already have problems understanding sentences if you start calling them 10.7 airframes they will be completly confused
You clearly mentioned that it has 10.3 airframe and flight performance hence for this indicates its more suitable for 10.3 that why confusing happened in the first place.
Anyway since everything became more clear no need to keep this conversation.
i never said it has 10.3 flight performance, show me where i stated that, i even said they got upgraded engines but that the base model is currently 10.3 and that brings limitations with them in the way of flight performance
Why do you keep trying to further this conversation?
İ clearly stated that misunderstood was solved and no need to keep this conversation going.
Almost all upgraded planes has limitations because of their base model, its not just special for Mig21Bis in this case.
again, i never said other planes dont have the same problem , thats why i gave the future f4f ice as example as well. You are the one that continues misundestanding things and misquote me
What are you talking about? It’s not a BR10.3 aircraft… it’s a more powerful MiG-21MF with missiles worth 11.0 BR. In the same BR there are MiG-21bis… The biggest problem with the J-7D is that it has a much more powerful cousin, the J-7E, which carries the same missiles and has better maneuverability.
Having said that, trying to master the skills of flying a J-7E by flying a J-7D is ineffective, these are two almost completely different aircraft, and to me, if you can see a J-7G in BR 11.3 with FCR and PL-8 missile I will be very happy.
yeah thats the whole thing we are saying the mig 21 mf is 10.3, the airframe itself is “old” and can be found on 10.3 aircrafts thats all what i am saying
what the fuck is 11.0 about Magic or PL-5B? fucking Milan got Magic at 9.7, PL-5B is just less manouverable Magic.
It has AIM-9Bs
wrong plane.
All that being said, Crusader, A5C, Etendard, Mirage 3C, 3E, Jaguar A, Jaguar E, all got magic.
and these planes are below 11.0
Crusader and Mirage 3C have no countermeasures
3E, Jag and Etendard only have 2 Magics
A5C is undertiered, it also only has 2 Magics and small CM capacity
PL-5B might be less maneuverable at short range (and not because they have bad G load, it’s because they are incredible fast), but they have much better range
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They’re bad because they get flared like a bitch, at 11.0 I expect they have better missile if they can’t have dogfight oriented airframe and engine.
I would consider PL5bs to be a lot better than Magic 1s.
The anti-interference performance of PL5B is much worse than Magic 1
the german mig21 bis and UK f4 junk aren’t much better either. US and USSR have the best top tier premium while everyone else have to suffer
at least the UK F4 gets sparrows, mig 21 and the j7D dont get any bvr missles
That isn’t what makes or breaks a missile mate.
PL-5b versus Magic 1 is no contest in favour of the PL-5b.
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Gotta be honest, I have a 2 k/d in mine and really have 0 issues with it.
PL-5B’s carry it for sure, but there really isn’t an issue with the FM if you already know how to fly the mig-21 playstyle
I grinded China aviation in a week with this toy, I had 200 deaths and 600 kills with this thing and got a average of 3 to 4 kills per game with it. This thing does need a little boost to performance but is currently fine at 11.0 and doesn’t need a BR decrease.
Compared to my Russian, British and Palestinian aircraft I’d say it’s pretty enjoyable
Its sits okay at 10.7 br
U get pl-7 missiles.
Try playing kfir canard then at br 11.0 with aim-9g ‘s .