In which world?
Bad energy retention doesn’t mean that aircraft aren’t good on dogfighting.
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BTW, I often see people overestimate the MiG-21bis R-60Ms and justify it as being 0.3 BR higher than the J-7D, but it needs to be mentioned that it is actually not that much better.
Yes, they are all-aspect missiles but, maneuverability is not very good because the Fin AoA is literally lower than the R-13M1 and has a much shorter range. “30G” in stats card basically means nothing. Their only advantage is just all-aspect, in some cases equal to or inferior to AIM-9P-4.
If the R-60M had the equivalent performance with the PL-5C, current BR difference could still be justified, but unfortunately this is not the case.
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not mig23m, maybe mld
What , bro all you do is basebombing in the 21Bis and the J7D. How can you know that the J7D is bad because it lose all it energy in one turn ? Oh wait you don’t, because you always pick the lamest way to play and refuse to learn anything , forcing every premium jet you got into a multi role jet
Yeah but we got two guy defending the J7D to the death in here and to them the R60M is some kind of godlight IR missile. When the thing is extremely flare hungry