it’s not ridiculous, weapon kit of J-7D is a lot better than MiG-21bis even if you take into account 2 additional missiles. And J-7D has better performance. So please explain me why it should be at 10.7 while bis is at 11.0? And bis is pretty fine at 11.0 it can confidently throw hands agaist 12.0 stuff like Tornado F or F-4S when you know what you’re doing
All aspects and radar missiles probably
PL-5B are literally the best non IRCCM rear aspect missiles in the game due to their ridiculous speed, they are the outright most flare resistant missiles without flare resistance due to sheer kinematic performance. You have to basically pre-flare them if they aren’t launched from 4km+. That’s a step above everything else without IRCCM and all aspect seekers. All rear aspect missiles get decoyed by one flare, but PL-5B can and will regularly just ignore flares that are launched too late. Slower missiles will still be vulnerable to flares even halfway up someone’s tailpipe.
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you keep saying “all-aspects” like it’s some sort of sorcery. All-aspect missiles are as easy to flare as rear-aspect, you won’t get a kill 95% of the time with them if you just launch front or side aspect. And radar missiles at this br are extremely easy to avoid, there is whole ass 1 airframe with truly dangerous missiles, which is Flogger. Any sparrow can be dodged even without chaff and multipath by a simple loaded roll.
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I’d say 9G is still extremely potent because you can launch them from fruther distance. Players usually don’t bother checking anything beyong 1.5-2km around them and eat 9G. But i’d take PL-5B any day of the week over 9G despite it also being very good
Would love to have this experience
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Lets remember to keep this thread on topic, and keep all personal arguments to PM.
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AIM-9G is still inferior due to the much slower speed, long burn motor and reduced G load. It’s decent, but not capable of holding a candle to missiles like PL-5B.
The most comparable AIM-9G carrier, the Kfir Gderot gets half the missiles, lower CM count and a higher BR compared to the J-7D.
Not to mention the J79 engine in the Kfir Gderot giving it great acceleration at the cost of turning the plane into a flying star when locked in rear aspect. J-7D is way colder by comparison, not even needing to throttle down as much as Kfir Gderot when defending against AIM-9L or PL-5B. I have had AIM-9L ignore flares even at 60% throttle and 2.5km range in the Kfir. Or just ignore flares frontally outright.
Well, i didn’t say that they are equal, haven’t i? But 9G is still very potent missile that will work in a wide range of situations. J-7D should never be below 11.0 in br, but with atrocious performance of little TImmies it’s kept at such a low bracket.
yeah I was going to say, wasn’t the J-7D at 11.3 or something when he made that video?
The bigger problem is that the f-16 and stuff was 12.0 and mig23ml 11.3. Basically everything was way lower and it was higher. Also he hated the J7D because the A-5C was 10.0 so a better farmer.
Not really.
I can flare them all day under 1km as long i know they are coming.
Cut burner, fly wing to floor, S and flare= 100% dodge.
J7D is way down the list when it comes to balancing issues as it fights at a competative BR.
Around 8.3- 8.7 is where there is no answers. Its funny how players say MIG 15 is OP for eg… well 9/10 you are the slowest plane in tbe lobby.
Another flat track bully plane, which the J7D isnt …
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So tell me again why J7-D can’t be 11.0 ? It is because the player who only good at the jet said so or only use it as a base bomber claiming so or it should be 10.7 because the one who play it feel like so
Peoples are so dumb and has massive skill issue.
That’s why.
idk what you’re trying to say
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Subpar munitions
Wait a minute…
Lmfao but in all seriousness there is no flare resistance so there is no flare resistance