J-7D. The most broken plane at this time

something something don’t be the first one to charge the enemy line.

Well shoot dont do this dont do that.

Please enlighten me with your R60M experience.

Seriously go fly something with it and report back how easy it is…

I’m sorry I had to be the one to tell you how to use the missile optimally.

I can make the same argument about AIM-9G being a god rod that punish people from 4KM away and every 9G carrier should be at 11.0 if you love god rod that much but I will not.

Completely irrelevant.

it’s my SL that I care. and I surely don’t want this thing goes to 11.0 and end up an F-4S feeder.

God forbid planes are balanced. A J-7D can handle an F-4S without issue, same as the Mig-21.

I love my free 20/40/60/80K SL per game

Yeah, no shit you love farming SL with an undertiered premium. Guess we should make the Mig-21bis 10.0 because I like shitting on everything I face like a public toilet. What about when I play the F-4C? Do you think I enjoy facing J-7Ds that I can do nothing against? A way more imbalanced match-up than J-7 vs F-4S, and it’s only 0.7 BR difference.

cool, pay me for the lazur then.

i like this kind of assumption where you just assume that all I get is downtier game. nah dude, i’m getting 11.7 games all the time. Also.

your word

not mine.

Dude I WISH that plane had 6 R-60M. At least then having no nose authority and really bad sustained turnrate wouldn’t hurt as much. The only thing the attack floggers have is the big gun and GRB CAS ability.

They’re not even fast enough to consistently get bases anymore.

got outmatched by their round nosed brothers carrying 2 napalm and fucking off to the ground

As an avid Mig-21 with SPO-10 enjoyer I can tell you I absolutely do not suffer from “Pulse-doppler bullshit”. Even back when it was 11.3.
And yet it’s an interesting request to make. Try playing anything flareless within J-7D’s BR range and see what you get dinged by instead.

You’re saying that the J-7D souldn’t be 11.0 because you don’t want it to face anything that might have an advantage over it. So I’d say its your words exactly, my friend.

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you can play SARH dodging simulator in custom battle. I’d rather play a normal game of “I can multipath this shit without having to abort my engagement and see the game end after I reenegage”.

Exactly the only people defending its br are the ones capitalising on it being undertiered. Old mate case in point.

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Genuine skill issue. This is why I bring up stats.

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man if all you got here is “exactly gurlllll” just go to twitter or something. you say it’s underBRd because of what? you keep getting uptiered to face this shit? then I can also say there is about 1 game where it’s a full downtier after 30 game of full / partial uptier.

That’s all? nothing on the entire BR range itself? Well you lost the plot.

Yes. 10.0 - 12.0 is a perfectly suitable BR range for the J-7D. That is all.

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And there it is. you missed the point by laser focusing on 1 plane when AALL this shit is a multifaceted issue. but eh, you play war thunder, what am I doing being nuanced. and the restraint this thread give to laser focus on 1 plane just show how blind to a wider issue WT player can be.

I’ve searched this thread far and wide for “nuance” but can’t find any multifaceted issue that should keep the J-7D at 10.7. Especially not from you.

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Its the only aircraft you do okay in…

You talk about R60Ms like you know but have zero experience

I have made several comments on this thread on to why its undertiered.

Please stat check me and see how bad i stuggle

You have not flown half the aircraft around the J7D to even say you know the nuances.

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i played everything that i got in CN and JP around 9.7 to 11.3 to know that J-7D is not that much of an Issue provided that you don’t give it your rear 24/7 (even when you’re flareless, trust me, T-2 against J-7D is not that much of an issue if you know what you’re doing) and if you aren’t riddled with skill issue like the OP of this thread whose entire stat card is basically a big banner that read “I AM A CAS MAIN” with each letter written as big as the Hollywood sign letters itself. I can’t take the word of people who has higher tank kill in a plane than they got kill in plane about their opinion about certain plane capability. that guy struggles to fight J-7D in F-5C when F-5 rolls MiG-21 if they know what they are doing. I don’t think this thread serve a purpose other than wiping OP skill issue riddled ass.

tldr: Because in my experience it is fine so it is fine.

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You keep dying to J-7D? flare