im sorry but no, the j7d CAN beat the f5, its a very agile aircraft, but the f5 is such an easy plane to fly and the guns so much better it will win most times, especially cause it burns MUCH less energy
In a short story
J-7D shouldn’t stay 10.7. because it can use 4 PL-8(Chinese copy of Magic 1), while either A-5C, Jaguar A or Mirage IIIE can only access 2.
And here is some preset reply about possible questions.
“Then J-7D can do nothing against F-4S and become useless!”
- Good. J-7D shouldn’t have special treatment at the same level as why F-86A-5 shouldn’t stay 8.0
it is suited more on 11.0 than 10.7. 10.88-ish maybe?
“Why are you bringing strike aircraft when comparing it with a fighter jet? it is nothing but blurring the point.”
- I brought not only A-5C but also Mirage IIIE for the counterpart.
“Mirage has SARH missile while J-7D doesn’t”
- R.530 can kill nothing but RWR-less planes or Brain-less players.
“But it can’t bomb unlike MiG-21bis does!”
- We shouldn’t consider the bombing capability of a fighter jet when we decide BR of it.
especially when bombing having worthless efforts on winning, and strike aircraft are nothing but dogwater in the current meta of ARB.
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I’m starting to think you died to the J-7 a few times and are whining about it. It’s not some unstoppable plane, it’s a jet that I can defeat quite easily in a MiG 21bis and a MiG 23ML. There’s no “it shouldn’t get good treatment” it’s a plane that has no defence against front aspect warfare. In my honest opinion, there is no need for a plane to be 11.0 and above without access to front aspect or all aspect weaponry: that includes the F-5 as well.
But you know what, obviously since all of you are clearly terrible at the game that you are being beaten up by a MiG so badly that you are crying for it to be overtiered, screw it, move it up. I have zero connection to it anyways, and then I will be back in a month where you all are crying that the J-7 is being beaten like a disobedient kid and that it should be moved back down. Just like the Kfir, just like the J35XS, and just like every other jet that has been moved up in BR, because this community cannot figure out how to leave things be.
Some of them are actually overtiered. A6M5s are quite sad at current meta.
F-4F Early doesn’t have radar missiles and radars are mid, which means no look down.
Also they doesn’t even have CMs.
Problem is that the F-104s has no other option but to just keep flying straight.
Aircraft like the J-7D and others at higher BRs have more options.
J-7Ds acceleration to VNE on the deck is the best among all 10.7 BR aircraft.
It’s literally better than the F-104G, and that doesn’t matter unless you hold the S key really long time and bleed all your energy
Isn’t it enough?
My MiG-21bis-SAUs stats are quite awful because I played it when MiG-23MLD was meta.
J-7II is also awful because F-4C was broken overpowered at that time.
J-7Ds WRs are not that good because I played this thing since when it comes. J-7D vs MiG-29A(old flight model) was quite horrible.
It isn’t if you compare to other 10.7s.
You’ve literally only played the Kfir Canard and C.7 in ARB.
IIIE is basically IIIC with better engine but ways fatter airframe.
Also, Kfirs has waaaaaays better engine and airframe.
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First of all, Low-quality bait.
You can’t reply without any kind of insult or sarcasm?
I never knew Irishmen like you can’t do better than this. :/
Yes. J-7D isn’t somewhat kind of magical dragon kind of shit.
I know, you know, he knows, even Stona and Smin know about it.
We also can kill it easily if it gets nerf up to 11.0 and we brings fancy jets with SARH like F-4S or Tornado ADV then.
I am unsure that you can say the same when you play Harrier, Jaguar, or some MiG-21 but worse or many other jets in 9BRs
Yes. your speech is no better than these sabre gangs which defend their jets to remain undertiered and reasoning early supersonic jet F-104A/C and Su-7 as reason.
Come on, just dump few chaff & flare, and move.
J-7D isn’t flareless jet like Milan or IIIC which need to think before dive against planes with all-aspects IR.
I don’t think J-7D need to considered as ‘no defence’ jet.
Okay then, for arguing’s sake. if we think about you are completely right for keeping J-7D in 10.7 because no jets with all aspect missile or SARH need to be 11.0 or higher.
Becasue it can do basically nothing agaisnt superior 3rd-gen jets with fancy things.
Then, Why you just only looking upsides but completely ignore downsides? for chirst’s sake.
If you think J-7D shouldn’t face all-aspect missiles at all,
Maybe we can say the exact same theory against J-7D when we talk about flareless supersonic jets in 9BR radius.
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J7D accelerates alot faster, so the only real risk is 3rd parties right after or during a dogfight,
Because there’s bigger issues at 9.7 than a temu MiG 21, case in point: A-10 and Su-25 with better missiles. I would rather see those go up before some Chinese MiG.
Dont be ridiculous, comparing the effectiveness of the most broken plane of its tier with the capacity of two CAS planes that you can subdue simply by using the cannon is a joke
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Oh yeah, good luck with using your cannon against all aspects
You dont use flares?
Kinda hard when you don’t get flares
Since when J-7D dont have flares??
I don’t know what we are talking about anymore
You dont know what this post its about??
Ill help you. This post its J-7D. The most broken plane at this time
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No.
The most broken plane is still F-5 tho,unlockable on full AB from rear aspect further than 1.5km
Press flare.
the j7d surely is meta, not broken by all means tho, most planes at this br have flares and the missiles are really not flare resistant, if you die to a j7d its a lack of awareness or skill issue. if you want to argue broken maybe look at the f5c that thing has insane flight performance nearly unlimited gun ammo low IR signature and an competetive amount of flares
2 AIM-9E VS 4 PL-5B or PL-7, plus 1000kmh slower than J-7D, with just 30 flares and without radar, you must be kidding
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