J-15T is unplayable

its ironically what you think he wants, selective realism, because there is an ECM suite irl to make up for the 48 CMs

As I already said. This argument is retarded as my win rate on the J-15T isnt nearly as “good” as on my other top tiers.

I know it exists at least for most top-tier aircraft, if we don’t have ECM in the game, We have to make do with what we’ve got

Trying to insult me won’t change your situation or improve your gameplay, what you should do is listen to what we’re telling you and make the necessary changes the next time you play

Nope. I am quite happy with my Ef-2000 and the way it plays. The J-15T is underperforming though. I know you cant accept that in your basement as a pro player.

A non-spaded aircraft, which requires a radically different playstyle to the Typhoon, specifically more defensive playstyle, that also happens to have quite a high skill curve at the moment due to its short-comings and by the sounds of it, you have been playing it overally aggressively, putting yourself into situations where you have to aggressively defend…

Yeah… Im not that surprised tbh. Whislt yes the J-15T is not in a healthy state at the moment, not denying that, it probably wouldnt be quite so bad with a more defensive playstyle.

Try this instead. Fly high, 20-30k ft, stay more defensive, edge skirt a bit, stay out of the middle of the map getting fired at from all direction. Try to maximise your limited chaff count by kinematically draining incoming missiles rather than relying solely on notching (DONT TRY TO MP)

Then engage targets of oppotunity, those busy dealing with some else, someone flying very high, etc etc. Avoid a prolonged WVR encounter wherever possible. Learn how to read your radar fully (guide above) and work on firing under kinematically advantageous conditions

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I’m not a pro player, but I’m clearly better than you, and if the J-15T is underperforming based on how you play, I reckon all the planes are underperforming

But even when it comes to the Eurofighter, your ratings are poor below average.

I had to stock grind both Ef-2000´s though and they werent this bad.

I’ve already watched six replays, he doesn’t know the basics of the game in top tier, it’s hard to ask that of him

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For a sweat like you it must seem that way. I am however quite happy with my Ef-2000 and and average player accordign to my rating so please just sybau.

The EFTs are far more forgiving aircraft, with high CM counts, great RWRs and PD MAWS that makes precise notching easy. They are also able to easily get into good launch conditions for the AMRAAM, which quite frankly, a pretty dismall at the moment, but work a lot better when fired really fast

I am texting you while playing. Just stfu.

Yeah the J-15T is underperforming and I think PL-15 would be the only suitable realistic solution.

Or a BR drop. The concern Id have with PL-15 (especially if before ECM and before we get a picture of what ECM would even look like) is that PL-15 may just result in a BR increase, which is just going to make the limited CM count even worse.

Its one thing to pit a J-15T against whats already ingame, but now imagine it defending against Meteors and IIR missiles.

The PL-15 is a next-generation missile,it won’t be coming to the game any time soon, and if this aircraft is underperforming, others are too. The lack of ECM affects several aircraft, and the simplification of missiles affects all top-tier missiles.

I don’t see the new ones I’m looking at the old ones before the conversation starts

ok sweat boy. Again I am an average player. Not a pro player like you.

As missiles become more advanced, positioning will become even more important, because it’s virtually impossible to dodge an IIR missile at close range, which will force you to play smart. The METEOR has a huge range, which will force you to play in such a way that you always have time to notch.

Yep, exactly.

So the J-15T won’t be directly affected, it’s the playstyle that will have to change, which is something War Thunder players don’t usually take too well. ;)