Yeah my expectations are somewhat low. Chat says its effective range against a maneuvering fighter is pretty low. 40-70km. Can still launch almost immediately after spawning lol.
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In other words, isn’t AAM installed on the D pylon, let alone the E pylon? It’s a pretty weird TEMU EFT.
How does that compare to the PL-12? Isn’t the PL-12 already a amraam equivalent?
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If you mean PL-15, its maximum tail-aspect launch range under standard conditions (at 10,000 meters altitude and Mach 1.2) exceeds the dimensions of any existing in-game map.
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- PL-12 in game is rigged, so it little bit problematic to compare.
- PL-15 should have no escape zone of like 30-35kms, while in-game FOX3s have like 15kms
Oh alright, but I assume it would be nerfed like most arh missiles?
What?
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Well, there are no missiles in the fuselage after all?
Speaking of j10c, I believe Chinese aircraft can also be equipped with the new electro-optical targeting pod — the 鹰隼-ⅢA (Yings-IIIA) .
Its basic data:
Dimensions:
Length: < 2700 mm
Diameter: < 406 mm
Weight: < 280 kg
What I particularly want to mention is the resolution of the infrared thermal imager: 1280×1024.
Currently, the maximum thermal imaging resolution for targeting pods in the game is 1200×800.
The following is the basic data screenshot from the Yings-ⅢA (PS: There was originally a QR code linking to a website, but the site seems to be down now, possibly due to an expired domain or unpaid fees).
Here is additional information: The YINGS-ⅢA has both high and low configuration versions. The model displayed at the 2024 Zhuhai Airshow that I photographed was the high-end configuration (left side of the image shows low configuration, right side shows high configuration).
The image indicates that the high-configuration YINGS-ⅢA has both infrared and TV detection ranges ≥70km/55km respectively, maximum laser ranging distance of 70km (using 1.067μm wavelength), and laser illumination/lock-on tracking distance ≥30km.
In the photo below, we can see from the actual footage on the right side of the HUD that the YINGS-ⅢA has locked onto a target 21.88 km away.
As a new-generation pod, it is compatible with almost all Chinese combat aircraft, including the J-10C/E, JF-17, FTC-2000G, L-15, Chinese Flanker, and even the Su-30. lol
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YINGS-III should also have DIRCM, unless this is a mistranslation
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It doesn’t seem to be a mistranslation; the original Chinese text states the same. It’s truly interesting that electro-optical pods can also provide missile warning and conduct infrared countermeasures .
that’s not too insane, the ldircm turrets functions for su57 as both irst and ldircm as well. my question is, is the yings 3 pod has ldircm or just dircm
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I don’t know. The original Chinese text in the image states “导弹警告与红外干扰” (Missile Warning and ir ？？，Forgive me, I can’t make out this word clearly.) and “导弹警告与对抗” (Missile Warning and Countermeasures). It doesn’t explicitly specify what type of DIRCM it is.
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The LDIRCM on the Su-57 is not its electro-optical targeting pod. Having just checked the forum suggestions for the Su-57, the 101KS-N is the electro-optical targeting pod, while the 101KS-O is the LDIRCM. Although they are both part of the 101KS Atoll electro-optical suite, they are not the same component.
If a pod were to function as a DIRCM, I believe that, given the power output of the electro-optical pod itself, achieving the effect of an LDIRCM should be feasible.
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yeah ik, but its irst functions like a pod itself so it doesn’t need to take its pod. That’s why i said irst, not targeting pod.
Anyways, does the j-10ce/c get any ir guided weapons, like a spice 250 equivalent or a maverick/kh38mt equivalent?
Yes, the LS-6 Modularized Guided Bomb Series displayed at the Zhuhai Airshow can be fitted with interchangeable infrared and laser seekers. The kit can modify 250kg, 500kg, and 1000kg general-purpose aerial bombs .If the LS-6 series 250kg glide bombs are mounted, and considering the triple composite bomb pylon for the J-10CE that others have mentioned, the wing can carry three 250kg bombs on one side .
Regarding the specialized guided bomb GB3 (GB250A), based on my photos, it should also use an infrared seeker. I believe other GB-series bombs (like the GB1000 in the game) are also capable of having their seekers replaced .
However, China lacks a supersonic close-range air-to-ground missile analogous to the Kh-38. For close-range air-to-ground missiles, I recall the C701 and C704, which are more similar to the AGM-65 Maverick .
C-701 (late version) range: 25 km, semi-armor-piercing warhead 29 kg.
C-704 range: 35 km, semi-armor-piercing warhead 130 kg.
Both missiles can have their seekers interchanged, including imaging infrared, or man-in-the-loop television guidance?
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Oh, the C-701 likely isn’t carried by fighter jets, as it wasn’t adopted by the Chinese military and is primarily for export. However, the C-704 was developed from the C-701. It’s heavier (400 kg), with a range that should be ≥ 25 km .
The original C-704 is an anti-ship model. The C-704KD is an air-to-ground model, and the CM-704KG is a new variant carried by the J-10
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AFAIK they’re only supersonic IR A2G armaments the J-10C can get is the CM-402AKG which is a bit absurd for balance but it can only carry 2 of them.
I’ve heard some sources claim the KD-88 is supersonic in its terminal phase aswell
What a beauty