J10C WS-10B is a thrust vectoring engine as well
No, it is not.
The only TVC J-10 was a one of J-10B prototype
Only one J-10B prototype utilized the WS-10B engine.
Quite a few J-10B’s have been retrofitted with WS-10 engines. As which model it is 10A? 10B? No idea
Even the J-10S has WS-10’s these days
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The J-10B No.1035 prototype was the first J-10 to use the WS-10 engine, though subsequent production models all adopted the AL-31FN until WS-10 saw widespread use in late production batches of the J-10C; notably, Prototype No.1034 originally equipped with the AL-31FN was later converted into the J-10B-TVC demonstrator.
Yeah i get that the initial J-10B’s primarily used the AL-31 and most still do.
Correct me if I’m wrong but the J-10B was mostly a stop gap production because the new radar and WS-10 was not operational ready yet hence why so few B’s were made compared to the A and C
That’s true.
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Anyone know specs of the irst of this thing?
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The JA-37 Grippen?
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To be honest, Gaijin should really equip Chinese tech tree aircraft with new missiles. After the J-10C leak, Gaijin claimed the missiles were “too overpowered.” They said the same thing last time about the CM502KG, a Fire-and-Forget helicopter missile that has terrible damage against light armored targets. I’m not sure what Gaijin is referring to—the PL-15? With a range of 145-200 km, it would indeed be beyond the current game’s scope. However, China has the PL-12AE, which is comparable to the in-game R-77-1 and AIM-120C5/C7. Its range of around 120 km is perfectly suitable for new Chinese aircraft and wouldn’t be overpowered .
The seeker dome of the PL-12A and its export variant, the PL-12AE.
Actually, the twin medium-range missiles carried under the fuselage of the J-10CE at the 2024 Zhuhai Airshow were also PL-12AEs .
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This Pakistani brochure took all of its data from the J-10C Wikipedia article. The 9750 kg empty weight figure on the Wikipedia article comes from this 2007 article that predates the J-10C. The J-10C is NOT 9750 kg, this figure was originally thrown around for the J-10A and is extremely inaccurate. We do not know where the Pakistani brochure comes from either but we do know that the airshow hosts or whoever made it took all of their info from the Wikipedia article and even made several typos such as the MTOW being incorrectly listed as 42,499 lb when their source (Wikipedia) states 42,388 lb.
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Yeah I’ve realized that now, talked about it on the j10 thread in the aircraft section of this site. J10c will be a beast now (assuming it’s around 8600 kg)
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Yeah, I’d expect it to be around 8.6 - 8.8 tons. Regardless of whether it gets the AL-31FN Series 3 or WS-10B both engines produce significantly more thrust than the current one.
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Additionally, the erroneous empty weight has fortunately been removed from Wikipedia recently for citing an invalid source. However, the damage is already done and a lot of publications still use this weight and take it for granted.
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Here’s some calculation.
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Ain’t no way they add the PL-15… if they do it’s gonna be nerfed so bad
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yep, but it should still be better than everything else, assuming they dont add meteor/amraam-d/c-8
Pretty sure the PL-15 stuff is real if you think about it. PL-10 and PL-17 placeholder file names have been in the game files for a while, but they just randomly add an inferior missile file out of nowhere?
If this is real, my bet is it’s just gonna be an amraamer amraam: longer theorical range and even more nerfed on everything else