The Italian tech tree looks very much throw together to me with lots of redundant vehicles, so I’m proposing these changes:
M3A3 Stuart → foldered under the AB 43, both are 2.7 and do the same thing, let’s give priority to actually Italian vehicles in their tech tree
Sherman V → foldered under the P40, same reason has before plus there are already more then enough Shermans
M44 → foldered with the M55, these two are essentially the same thing and there’s no need to have them separated
Sherman Vc → foldered under the Sherman Ic, it’s just a slight upgrade i don’t see why they should be separated
R3 T20 FA-HS → foldered with the Leoprad 40/70
M109G → foldered with the 2S1, both are howitzers that do the exact same thing
SIDAM 25 (Mistral) → foldered with the SIDAM 25
Tigris → it should be a tech tree vehicle instead of the M26A1 alongside the Hungarian operated Panthers, granted this won’t ever happen but Gaijin could add the varius Hungarian prototypes based on the Tiger and Panther, if their prototypes where even partially built.
There’s no BR changes, i feel like everything is at the right BR but i feel there’s still unnecessary tanks like the M18 Hellcat and M36B1 which is just a downgrade from the standard M36 Jackson. I’ll probably make another post regarding the Hungarian prototypes too
Edit: said Hungarian prototype that I’m referring too is the M44 Tas, basically a knock off panther with a 75mm for the prototype and a 80mm fron the production one (never built)
Here is my proposal to improve the Italian tech tree by removing Hungary and restoring the tree’s integrity; it doesn’t need these copy-pasted units that dumb down the game for people who can’t be bothered to learn. This applies to all nations—playing the same “meta” tank over and over isn’t very fun.
I agree, the land lease vehicles are annoying because i want yo play Italian ones, on the other side… does italy have other tanks that can fill the void? Genuinely asking since i don’t really know.
Hunagry it’s fine, especially in the lower tiers i agree that it’s mid tier soviet armor shouldn’t be there… can’t really speak about top tier tho but as far as i know the Hungarian Leopard is italy best MBT
You might not fully grasp the essence of the game: if I want to play a Leopard, I play it with Germany; if I want a T-72, I play it with Russia. The most pointless addition is the Leopard 2A4—it’s not actually that much stronger than the Ariete. One thing they could do—though they never will—is adjust the matchmaking so that if you are allied with the nation that has a specific unit (like the Leopard with Germany) while playing as Italy, you can use it; if you aren’t allied with Germany, you can’t. That would make the game unique again and prevent “Leopard vs. Leopard” matchups.
Not a bad idea to be honest and yes with that matchmaking Hunagry doesn’t fit in Italy, but it’s the same reasons i have for foldering all of these vehicles… they are copy paste when i want to olay Italian vehicles in the Italian tech tree… Then, I can’t really speak for top tier but i see your point
I love these scizo Italian purists that demand US copy-paste but lose their mind over a mostly unique subtree. I bet if that 2A4 was Itallian he would be defending it tooth and nail.
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not an easy way to do what you ask and im not a fan of copy paste. +1 to Tigris and hungarian based panthers/tigers since italy has no heavies but -1 to actual panthers and remove the M26A1
Both the M3A3 Stuart and M4 Sherman are redundant, the Stuart is just a worse AB 43 and the Turan III fills the Sherman place much better… and i can assure you, nobody will miss the M44 and M55
No the are not, AB43 and the Stuart are 2 completely different tanks, and the Turan is 4.0 not 3.7, as for the SPGs I don’t mind having an HE launcher in 4.0 with the M24 the Turan III, and the Stug, I want to have a complete line-up not just 2 tanks