its own tree? Its stacked with foreign tech. From Panzer IV to Leopard 2A7. Alot foreign key units were somehow added to Italy. It just **** when you play against a copy paste nation which sports an M18 Hellcat as well as a Tiger tank. Or you join a high tier match and you have to play against your own Leopard tanks or IFVs.
Its just bad game design. WT should flesh out every nation’s tech tree to be somehow special. To keep the game interesting. Not… this.
there are other options to fill gaps in the trees like TAS44M
P.43 heavy tank
both are domestic and domestic is better than copy paste
100% yes. Also here’s the suggestion post for it
I support adding it even though it was only partially completed.
its completed enough to pass for addition to the tree
Since Germany, the U.S., the U.K., and the Soviet Union have all received $35 WWII vehicle packs, I think Italy could really benefit from something similar in the 4.0–6.0 BR range. Possible candidates could include:
• Italian Panther D
• 44M Tas
• P.43
• Hungarian Panther
• (stretch idea) Toldi páncélvadász – essentially a Toldi fitted with a 75mm gun, similar in role to a Marder.
Italy and minor nations often feel underrepresented around these BRs, and a pack like this would add both historical flavor and more variety to the tree.
As someone who plays Italy a lot, I’d personally love to see this idea explored. What do you think—would Italy benefit from a mid-tier WWII premium pack like this?
I have entire thread for that)
According to available information P.43 remained in a mock-up stage.
“Italian Panther D”, idk what you are talking about, they didn’t have one.
44M TAS would be awesome, but considering there is not a single photo of the prototype, it’s highly unlikely that we will ever get it.
Toldi páncélvadász is as you’ve said is a Marder equivalent, too low br for such pack, it’d fit the regular tree in my opinion.
They can add Romanian/Hungarian Panthers in such pack of course, but imo such packs better have customized copies of vehicles unique to said TT.
No, that is more fake than the M44 since is never leaved the paper stage.
What do you mean, more fake? What’s fake about the M44?
says it was in prototype stage in 1943
The M44 is only a prototype, the P43 was even less made.
Ah, he means the 44M. I thought he was talking about the artillery piece M44.
Sorry, I thought that it was named M44 instead of 44m
p.43 or tas44m which tank we talking about your confusing me
Rn talking about both. I was talking about P43 before now.
as long as either where partially built they can be added
Of the P43 they only built the gun (already used from the 1939), similar for the 44M.
Soon after the baseline of the Tas was accepted, the HM ordered two prototypes from Weiss Manfréd – one ‘iron’ prototype with mild-steel body for further experiments and one ‘finalized’ prototype with armor plate superstructure. The assembly of the first mild-steel prototype started in May 1944 and its chassis with the suspension and the built-in twin-engine was ready in June. Shortly after that the raw assembly of the turret with the 43M 75mm tank gun also started, presumably along with the preparatory works on the second prototype vehicle.
However, on July 27, 1944, the WM factory on the Csepel Island was seriously hit by an Allied bombing run. The main assembly hall collapsed and the mild-steel prototype of the Tas was buried underneath and burnt out. Along with that most of its spare parts, the heavy machinery and numerous mid-assembly Zrínyi II assault howitzers and Turán medium tanks were also destroyed.
it had to have been built or it would not have passed for suggestion
if italy gets german panthers in there techtree i think its fair we add some Italian P40s into the german tree
and other things
