Italian Curtiss S2C-5 «Helldiver»

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On April 4, 1949, Italy became one of the 12 founding members of NATO in Washington. This led to the U.S. providing Italy with military equipment under the MDAP (Military Defense Aid Program), aiming to standardize weapons among allied nations.

During WWII, Italy’s anti-submarine warfare (ASW) was primarily conducted using seaplanes like the Cant.Z.501, Cant.Z.506, and CMASA RS.14, differing greatly from U.S. methods, which employed carrier-based or land-based aircraft. The postwar delivery of Curtiss SB2C-5 Helldivers marked a shift for the Italian Air Force, introducing new operational methods, challenges in piloting, maintenance, and tactics.

Initially developed for the U.S. Navy in 1939, the Helldiver underwent significant improvements after a troubled start. These included more powerful engines, better flight control, heavier armament, radar systems, and dive brakes.

Postwar, Helldivers were distributed to France, Thailand, and Greece. In September 1950, 24 Helldivers arrived in Brindisi for the Italian Air Force. Due to the peace treaty, Italy couldn’t operate bombers, so the aircraft’s designation was shortened from “SB” to “S” (scout only). Pilots, mostly from fighter units, trained in Lecce under Col. Luigi Bianchi.

The 86th Autonomous ASW Group was established in December 1950 in Grottaglie under Capt. Vodret. Despite poor infrastructure and harsh conditions, the unit became operational. Initial incidents included crashes due to stall and mechanical failures. Vodret’s intense pace led to friction with command and his replacement by Lt. Col. Giuseppe Pelosi.

The unit initially had 22 Helldivers and 11 pilots. Maintenance of advanced radar and electronics proved difficult due to lack of experience. Nevertheless, the aircraft showed reliability, comfort, and effectiveness. In 1951, the 86th group began ASW exercises with the Navy, including simulated torpedo and dive-bombing attacks. The squadron flew missions abroad, including Malta and France, despite some operational accidents.

Throughout 1952, the group participated in multiple joint exercises with Italian, U.S., French, and British forces. New ASW techniques included radar searches and the use of hydrophone buoys. In March 1952, the 87th ASW Group was formed in Catania from the 164th Squadron with eight aircraft.

Despite infrastructure challenges in Catania, operations expanded. The 86th and 87th groups continued participating in international exercises such as “Bee-Hive,” “Italic 3,” “Champagne,” and “Long Step.” More Helldivers were added from U.S. stocks, though accidents continued to reduce the fleet.

By early 1953, the 87th began transitioning to twin-engine Lockheed PV-2 Harpoons. The Helldivers were gradually returned to the 86th Group. In August 1953, the last two Helldivers were delivered to Italy. Meanwhile, Italy’s Navy showed renewed interest in forming its own air wing, training with U.S. Navy units in Texas. However, legal conflicts due to a 1937 law assigning all military aircraft to the Air Force made the Helldiver transfer to the Navy unofficial.

Specification
  • Crew: 2 (pilot and observer/“gunner”)
  • Engine: Wright R-2600-20, 1900 hp at take off
  • Empty weight: 4780 kg
  • Max loaded weight: 7520 kg
  • Max autonomy: km 1875
  • Max speed: 475 km/h
  • Max altitude: 8875 km
  • Wingspan: 15.17 m
  • Overall length: 11.18 m
  • Overall height: 4.17 m
  • Wing area: 39.20 m²
Armament

Offensive armament

  • 2 x wing mounted 20 mm cannons

Suspended armament

  • Up to 906 kg in internal bay and under the wings
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Sources

Curtiss S2C5 Helldiver, 86 Gruppo autonomo Antisom, Taranto-Grottaglie in scala 1/48
https://www.marina.difesa.it/noi-siamo-la-marina/pilastro-operativo/mezzi/mezzi-storici/Pagine/aviazione/curtiss29.aspx
https://www.aviastore.it/l-s2c-5-helldiver-in-servizio-con-laeronautica-militare/

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Helldiver mentioned, +1.

Pretty funny timing that this Helldiver suggestion went up the same day Helldivers 2 dropped on Xbox.

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Inb4 someone says “copy paste -1.”

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Even funnier once you know this suggestion was pending since the 14th of june.
Maybe the waited exactly for this day lol.

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I have a question. Why is it named “S2C-5,” not “SB2C-5?”

Never mind, I should have read it. Lol.

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Because Italy couldn’t operarate bombers, so the B (bomber) designation was removed.

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Italy needs to spread democracy as well!
Download Video Game Helldivers 2 Gif

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That makes sense. Thanks for the clarification 👍

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Great, gib!

I actually was trying to research on italian use of the helldiver but i was unable to find reliable sources. this is a great suggestion

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+1
Who would hate another helldiver joining the fight?

:D

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A +1 from me! Italy will be helping to spread more democracy at 3.7 with this addition

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Will this thing be categorized as an attacker then? SB2Cs can manage kills with gunpods equipped with bomber spawn, but if you take the high-alt spawn away I am not sure.

Italy needs more attackers like this

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+1 We also need a torpedo plane that can drop torpedoes at 600/700 km/h.

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I would like to make a historical note regarding the text of the proposal: the Helldivers were originally delivered to the Italian Navy. In fact, the U.S. Navy trained several Italian naval crews in the use of the aircraft in the United States, and the planes were delivered directly to the Navy. The story is particularly interesting.

“The Navy’s Helldivers” had a very short and troubled history. This was followed by a dispute with the Italian Air Force, which effectively opposed the use of the Helldivers by the Navy and prevented the birth of a Naval Aviation branch.

The aircraft were handed over to the Air Force, which, however, did not really know what to do with them, and they ended up being used more for target towing than for patrol duties (the high-visibility schemes can be seen).

It would be very nice to include them in the Navy scheme, especially since at the time of delivery they were equipped with all fittings, including radar and dorsal turret—the latter was later removed when in service with the Italian Air Force.



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