lavi was made in late 1980s, israel received 9m’s only in 2000s and they only use them for testing and not for combat, so no it didnt use 9M’s
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Exacly the tested it on the lavi and it can carry them
The lavi is a big test on itself
The potential is high but the devs are lazy
How are you getting this idea from
how can it test Aim-9M’s when israel didnt even receive them in 1980s?? yes aim-9m’s were planned for it but it never received them after all
I remember that i read it somwhere if i find it i will post it but anyway gaijin did accepted this suggestion with 9ms
The suggestion is wrong.
Just because a suggestion was passed to the developers does not mean they will accept everything in it, especially if it’s wrong, they usually refer to the sources and just take note of the vehicles existence before researching it themselves. Take the F-15I suggestion for example, which incorrectly stated it had the same amount of ammo has the non-strike eagles, they didn’t follow that and gave it the same smaller round magazine as the strike eagles (correctly so).
A suggestion is not a source and they won’t follow it. None of the sources and images within the suggestion back up the 9M claim, and actual sources exist wi to disprove them.
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I didnt claimed that the suggestion is a source
I said that i remember i read it somwhere in some iai book and i will look for it when I can
That is most likely just incorrect (historically speaking) as, once again, Israel did not have 9M’s until around 2008 or so. Could it technically carry them? Yes, but it did not have them irl.
I don’t even wanna get started with the Lavi Derby theory icl
because israel was the only who actually helped with the tam 2s.
Actually very wrong Germany was one one who made the tam from the prototype called the tam all Israel did way later in life was modify it and thoses were done by elbit systems (had a small mistake)
That’s the point they’re making mate, it was modernized with an Israeli companies hep, and Germany played no role in the modernization. Israel has a larger claim to the TAM 2s because of that
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Small mistake?
They gave it 3 axis stab, filled it to the brim with electronics with thermals too (including the COAPS later on), thermal sleeves, aux power systems, more shell options including the capability to use ATGM’s, brand new FCS, composite armor AND commander control. There is still more iirc. It is already well known that Elbit played a big role with the 2’s
A few sources
La modernización del Tanque Argentino Mediano (TAM) - Noticias Defensa Documentos
https://www.zona-militar.com/2017/07/15/novedades-proyecto-tam-2c/
Below The Turret Ring: Improved version of the TAM revealed
https://www.zona-militar.com/2021/07/09/informe-de-la-jgm-avances-en-el-estado-del-tam2c/
Fabricaciones Militares y Elbit Systems modernizan el TAM C2
Argentina firma un convenio con Israel para modernizar 74 tanques TAM
El Ejército de Argentina presenta el TAM modernizado por Elbit
https://www.israeldefense.co.il/en/node/62174
Tanque Argentino Mediano (TAM 2C) - Tank Encyclopedia
Argentine Army has unveiled upgraded model of TAM 2IP medium tank | Defence blog
That’s not a small mistake, this is just downplaying.
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No I used the wrong name that was the mistake
Highly disagree since Germany made them later modifications doesn’t mean it changes nations
Ofc the newest tam 2ca2 or whatever it’s called I don’t remember could go to both nations but that’s on gsjin to decide if they ever add more tams
Not just CA2. Every TAM 2 variant was modified by Elbit and by a big amount too, with each upgrade being more.
It would be like adding the CM11 to America because the tank pre upgrade was made by America, even if they got upgraded by ROCA (not the greatest example, but towards that direction)
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I think personally it could fit into both nations but I’d much rather see the domestic German ones being th301 and th302 tams are just cool tanks in general and I’d like too see more of the family
My personal wish would be a Kfir 2000 or Barak 1 with strict 90s configuration with maybe Paveways with basic LITENING.
So some 13.0 - 13.3
I looked at the Ayit Meshupar suggestion too, it is a nice one and can be added to US itself as A-4M with some changes, all 10.0 but rank VII for Israel. But in general devs are reluctant in giving US any Rank V-VI nowadays.
germany doesn’t need the TAMs once again, they need the actual prototypes that weren’t used by Argentina which is the TH 301.
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