Israel should NOT get the M109

The Rochev is just an M109A2, and the Doher is an M109A5

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Israel uses M109s. But they should get the Sholef. Or both.

You know that gaijn has a limited number of vehicles, and he wants to make money on them, so he adds copies to the tree

The Sholef is just a merkava hull with a new turret

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Bro, it is a lot more than that.

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I have never seen the M109 in Israeli service. Only M109A5, and I see records of M109A2. Never seen in Israel an M109 variant that doesn’t have an L39 gun.

Am I wrong or has Gaijin hit rock bottom?

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These variants were used by Israel, as well as the A1 variant.
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004925662395633664/1164954038509518969/M109-L23-idf-f-1.png?ex=654516fe&is=6532a1fe&hm=5db72b5db5ff99aa0ee7847f09c10d5553eafb374d1c64e60b612f6e107f5c59&
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I’d rather that variant of M109 be added to Israel as a premium, or even better, as an event vehicle so it would one day disappear forever from the matchmaking. I hate the M109 so much.

It’s completely fair that Israel receives the M109. It used it as well as its a simple carry over from other trees. It be one thing if only Israel received the M109 (then it would be a waste) but since everyone got it, it’s justifiable. Israel will get its other arty…eventually sigh

So the only reason you don’t want them to have a tank they actually had is because you hate it? Not enough of a reason imo

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Gaijin uses this as an excuse to avoid adding vehicles to Israel. What sucks even more is that when Gaijin adds vehicles to Israel, it’s more a declaration of intent. The actual vehicle enters a finished status only after years of being in a broken state.
By the time we’ll get any vehicle added to Israel properly, most would probably leave the game.

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yes

Think with the same rule, why adding M109G to germany instead of the M109A2/A3 version or the PZH2000. And what about the AS-90 for Great Britain intsead the M109A1? Or the Type 99 SPH for Japan or the South Korean K-9 Thunder? We already have the VIDAR (A South Korean K-9 thunder used by Norway) so why they cant add them? And what about the chinese PLZ-05 instead the PLZ-83? And the AHS Krab SPH used by Poland (an modified version of the K-9 thunder) And why they dont added the 2S19 Msta-S for Russia? And why not adding the M109A6 “Paladin” to EE.UU instead the A1 version?.

Give them time, this update are literally made in 1 month. Im sure they gonna see more artillery tanks in the game even with his own aiming system for indirect fire in the future.

As a lover of ground vehicles and especially indirect artillery, I am happy to see that they are adding more of this type of vehicles in the game. I think this is a good step to see these vehicles in the future added in the game so dont mind it, its a new vehicle for the Israel ground forces. Israel used it, and then gaijin added it to the game and i think its good.

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They used it, and it’s being modeled for the US so why not add it for every country that used it at the same time

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because its a waste of 40k RP

Chinese tanks are a waste of RP, especially since their military never existed until after WWII

It translates to 20 matches of 2k research points and 10 with premium.

I think it’s better than grinding a second (and worse) Leopard 2A5 (the PSO) 240 matches of 2k research points and 120 with premium (more or less)

So I keep thinking it is a good addition to the game, remember, this update are made in 1 month so I think is normal to have some copy-paste vehicles. Let see what they have prepared for December.

All would be different BRs, so none of those would be “instead” of, but additions.

Wherever a military did exist or not before WW2 has no hand in whether a nation should get ranks I-III or not. China and Taiwan happened to buy a lot of exports, Sweden developed their own military vehicles from scratch, and Israel scavenged literal junkyard garbage to create a mad max military.