Is WarThunder a moral company?

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Is WarThunder a moral company? This is a question that will surely provoke some reactions.

WarThunder is a video game that needs to be profitable for its publisher. Every company must be profitable; this is their primary goal. Morality can be secondary, and I even find this acceptable, as I am not a fan of games that preach to their players at the risk of alienating them.

That being said, I believe WarThunder encourages its players to become dependent, to get addicted, and I am one of them. Let me explain:

I started playing WarThunder at the end of 2013. I have had periods of taking breaks and other times of intense farming. I have had at least five years of a premium account, numerous top-tier premium vehicles, talismans, etc., worth at least $500. On top of that, I play about 2 hours a day (hence my mention of addiction). Yet, I still don’t see the end of the grind. I have a decent number of planes, but I am far from having all the other vehicles.

How is it that after 10 years, hundreds of dollars invested, and thousands of hours of gameplay, I still can’t access everything WarThunder has to offer?

In their advertisements, Gaijin showcases the latest generation tanks and planes, adding “free to play.” Can you explain how many years it would take a new player to reach these impressive vehicles featured in the ads without spending money and without falling into addiction? The reality is that it’s impossible. This is a lie from Gaijin. New players would have to spend their evenings for over a decade and spend enormous amounts of money on the game to hope to reach the end. You must have “WarThunder” constantly in mind to progress. The question may not be whether WarThunder is moral but whether WarThunder is legal. The situation seems quite harmful because, in addition to forcing players to become dependent to progress, the community’s camaraderie also deteriorates.

I am not here to torpedo WarThunder; it is a game I deeply love and would like to see change profoundly. Today, it seems that the developers see an endless grind as a source of revenue. This forces players to stay in the game, not wanting to turn their backs on something they have invested so many hours into, and it also forces them to spend money to speed up the grind. But let’s be serious, even spending $1,000, it would take several years to grind through the game.

Why not see things differently? Why not facilitate the grind to encourage the transfer of players from competitors? Perhaps many players are afraid to make the move because they fear having to spend thousands of hours grinding to reach the level they had with the competition? Why not keep the standard account as it is but significantly increase the gains with premium accounts/vehicles to boost sales? Why can’t we use free experience (because it is ridiculously expensive) while it would solve the perennial problem of stock vehicles being unplayable?

I say this as a warning to you, Gaijin, because if tomorrow a competitor shows up with a much simpler grind than yours, you could be in serious trouble…

Players, feel free to share your feelings as long as you are respectful.

PS: This paragraph has been made with the help of ChatGPT. So, please be kind if you notice mistakes :)

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Are they a moral company that isn’t greedy no.
They’re a company that has shown greed numerous times. With at some times the greediest consumer decisions. However, compared to companies like EA, they’re not even scratching the surface layer.

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Unfortunately, War Thunder has no competition as an anti-aircraft simulator. Before it, the best was Silent Hunter 3… Well, and fans of tanks or planes probably have somewhere else to go.

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No, they wont. They started when WoT was in its peak and they still managed to get to this day.

Gaijin is fine, you should just learn how F2P games works. If you cant handle that, there is plenty and plenty of multiplayer and singleplayer games where you pay once and “unlock” everything.

btw. Warthunder is not a company.

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You know, I use Steam, a software published by the Valve corporation who produced the video game Team Fortress 2.
Said game has a massive after-market filled with $$$ trades that make the publisher of the game boat loads of money, of which they learned from Japanese publishers. Much like how EA learned monetization.
So I can’t rightly complain about Gaijin Entertainment’s kitten monetization practices that rightly is a hilariously good deal: $40 a year for premium account.
50% sales of premium vehicles twice a year…
And they haven’t adjusted for inflation… all mighty knows if they tried War Thunder’s playerbase would riot. Jagex and Eagle Dynamics are the only ones allowed to adjust for inflation…

Gaijin could do better of course… most companies just do worse than Gaijin.

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Needing to rely on a AI to help you write something on a forum is very sad.

They are a company, they need to make money to keep the servers going and to pay the people working on it.

Its free to play, you dont have to spend money but people who spend money get perks to help get them through the grind. Thats how the servers stay online and more vehicles are added.

You dont have to grind, you can spend months at one BR and enjoy the time you play at that br and move on when you want something more challenging.

The game is not meant to be finished… this is why they always add new vehicles to the game for people to enjoy. There is no live service game that has an ending, just more grinding and new things to keep players invested into the game with more stuff for them to buy.

If you have an addiction problem please seek real help from a professional

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Short answer: No.

Long answer: War Thunder in its current state is no different from any other gacha game on the market. It’s main goal is getting as much money from you as possible. This is a fact.

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Given their partial nature towards ignoring certain sects of the playerbase that may not necessarily be playing through illegitimate means but certainly attract the majority of bullshit when engaging them, and their dislike for treating the player base with respect I would say no.

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Banning cheaters is ignoring cheaters?
Listening to feedback is disrespectful?
Weird takes NGL.

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still I belive 1 month of premium is too expensive, yes I have a job and I can affort

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Only thing I can see that may upset some countries law is encouraging those underage to gamble.

That is your choice ,nobody forces you.

I imagine many of us come to the game ,are blown away by it initially and spend a fortune.Then after a period of denial they add up what they spent and either are happy or now feel cheated and stupid.

It’s like a casino or carnival side show ,nobody puts a gun to your head.

I don’t spend anymore but I did and I have no real regrets as long as the game stays much as it is.

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you are not doing something right!
i started since last year and with only premium account and 2 premium packs planes (F5c and F104 sTAF) i reached top tier. also i have top tier planes on germany and france, and all the other nation to at least rank4/5

with moderate play, i have a family.
and i am a mediocre player.

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maybe, here are some tips:
do the BattlePass
do the events
buy only on sales

sell the coupons vehicle you don’t need and buy what you need.

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competion did show up on the begining and did die.

Bethesda did a modern tank world of tanks copy. It was mehhhhhh at best.
Gajin has the market cornerd and with threts you wont come far.

Off to the suggestion forum and make suggestions on how to make it better.

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If you feel “forced” to play an online game and addiction issues are a factor, suggest seeking professional mental health counseling.

p.s.
This comment is made by an actual person

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short answer: YES

Long answer: why do you think somebody will work for you to offer you a free games? servers need to be kept alive, and afterall this is a company and have to pay employees.

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I think that adding modern vehicles to the game was a mistake.
They should have made a game that starts in cold war and goes to modern.

Putting modern vehicles at the end of the game and so difficult to get, while advertising them to new players is sure to sow discontent for the game. I think many will see the advertisements as misleading.

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  1. war thunder is game, not company
  2. gaijin is commercial company
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people like drama so that’s why… they love the game but keep complaining.

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Most of what they’re asking you to pay for are things that are the reason why playing the game is so stressful. They could easily make wanting to have premium for the sake of having access to the premium tanks/planes, but adding on top the access to the silver lions and RP you actually gained from a round is just silly. It only serves to push the player to spend money for that and that alone. I have no interest in the premium tanks since for me they’re too niche but I know other people would love to have them, but I don’t wanna spend more time than I should playing just to research 8% of a tank’s unlock, so you’re pushed to spend money when as I said, you really shouldn’t.