So… hull ammo is a thing. In the Leo’s but Russia figured out removing the extra ammo outside of the auto loader caused tanks to eat far far more rounds.
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I do better in tbe 99 II and III i genuinely believe all 3 should be 11.3 , mbt2000 too.
Side note genuinely loving tbe ztz 99s.right now
Can’t Abrams do more than 60mph without governor which has happened before. Apparently during 80’s Abram crews took them up to or past 70mph
Yeah until your patience reward you by getting bomb out of that position after you killed one or two tanks i used to have more patience and positioning like you before until it doesn’t work like it supposed to be anymore and turn out going CQC is less prone to get bomb than having patience i really don’t enjoy such garbage CQC gameplay but i had to survive.
Nah im creeping on 3k hours now, the patience with the awareness now saves me more than not.
Its genuinely how im doing better in the ztz99s than i do in tbe mbt 2000.
Tanks like the cr2 it just doesnt work, or i cant make it work.
The abrams is mobile enough to position.
Also do not camp the one spot always move.
Mph? Sounds quite high for the tank.
The m1 in game goes 72kmph which sounds more realistic for it.
The m1a1s were up.armoured and heavier with newer electronics etc and if i remember right sit at 68/70kmph range irl.
Checked there the top speed recorded by the marines is 67.89.kmph of the a1.series about 42mph
Crazy how fast they can be huh
As for later Abrams, they are all equipped with governors, which possibly could be removed or disabled and probably have been at some point which is why it’s only 68-70kph
They did hit at least 70mph on the autobahn during the cold war, considering how good Abrams acceleration is and was irl, especially with lighter M1 , it should be attainable on roads in-game
They have governor because of reliability issues with going that fast, and because it might mess up the crew getting all shaken up, but neither matter in game
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The m1 can go 45mph maxed as well over 70kmph
If youve for a source for the 70mph id love to read that cause thats f’ing insane speed and genuinely want to read that. Not for fact checking btw dont worry
The governer is also to maintain the tank itself btw cause the parts would wear out incredibly fast at sustainijg a speed like that.
Genuinely on cross country not on mud the cr2 actually maintains a fair old speed as well think its about 43kmph which for a monster that size is insanely quick.
The chieftain funnily enough cross country was quite fast as well due to the suspension
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Theres no hard GDLS stuff saying it can afaik, but this guy works/worked for GDLS and drove them
It is important to note that when he says stripped of armor this is most likely referring to early Abrams being lighter than later ones as they had less armor
Multiple other crew accounts of going over 60 or 70 mph you can find by googling
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Thats funny af tbh imagine being gapped by a stripped abrams.
And it probably had all the composites and what not stripped due to security.
Lets be honest if you stripped a cr2 or leo2 itll hit crazy speeds too.
The cr2 is over 70 tonnes due to armour which is insane.
Edit i don’t wanna go too off topic btw apologies
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Idk if it really was stripped though, he could just be talking about how they had less armor. Have they ever stripped the armor off of an Abrams in US service, especially the old ones.
The other driver accounts I have read also point towards similar speed at least for old M1/m1a1 and I really doubt every single one of those tanks was stripped of armor seeing as that would probably be quite expensive and a hassle for little to no purpose
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The accounts im reading for the autoban one is stripped of its composits
The m1 itself without the gov was closer to 55 mph some downhill verging 60mph , with no load. Aka ammo or tools etc.
The m1a1 was slower due to the upgraded armour being DU armour which may be why the original m1 on the autoban was faster as.it didnt use the du.
Which leads me to believe it wasnt stripped because they wouldn’t need to strip it as both Germany, usa and britain all knew the composites involved.
Its one of those weird ones we.may never get a definitive answer.
As you said earlier but for the game its mot that important, would be funny but abrams.at over 100kpmh
Yeah, it’s kinda weird, there is one guy who said he knew an MP who swore he gave an Abrams a speeding ticket for going 71 in a 35 on base
And ofc the proving ground stuff of non governed Abrams going well over 60/70mph.
For original M1 though these speeds may be more attainable in game so it could actually help it quite a bit to offset its mediocre pen
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I mean the thing goes 72kmph in game as is and is the fastest 10.7 mbt.
The pen of the round while is low isnt much worse than say the 2a4s 237mm at 60 degrees.
Combined with the 5 second reload and mobility is more than sufficient.
Not the best not the worst.
Generally abrams in a nut shell
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Please I need my hellcat tank.
Funny enough, since dodge is owned by Chrysler, and the M1 was initially made by Chrysler, you can sort of trace the hellcat back to the original M1, which is the one hitting the crazy speeds
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Technically no, the xm1 prototype had chrysler make one and general motors GM won it as far as im aware.
So the grandfather of the abrams.is chrysler.
But yeah an abrams in hellcat green would be funny
Edit im out if likes again :'(
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No, both GM and Chrysler made their own XM-1 prototype, but it was Chrysler that won the contract (common Mopar win)
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Ah i had it the other way round apologies mate.
Abrams history js a bit convoluted for me same as the leo when theres different companies.competing.
Folks like to say that the cr2 was a private venture when realistically it was not
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only gaijin see all data
All third-party data has no reference value because it is not complete data. The charm of statistics
Depends on if you count the premium US top tier players or only non premium top tier US players.
Because I find the claim that non-premium top tier US players are worse than top tier German and Swedish players pretty hilarious and wrong. They are all incredibly stupid.
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