Exactly, it should be optional only but imagine how much fun it will be when flying two seater planes or helicopters :D
I would have to train a friend or two for a day (as in 12 hours of training each lol). then in the actual match every multicrew pilot would be recreating https://youtu.be/ArzyVUtZmp4?si=ERVNuSlTpobd0ytH&t=51
Of course, MAWs + a good spot = unkillable heli from the ground
I’m not mocking anyone, I’m just stating that seeing flares go off the moment my missile is launched proves MAW is working and pilots will have a warning on their screen about an incoming threat.
Why do you think that ?
No issues in liking modern tech, but stuff has to be at least somewhat balanced.
Unfortunately Gaijin completely forgot about AAs for a long while, all the while raising the power of CAS.
I doubt we’ll see that until we get modern AA systems capable of intercepting several targets at once. At that point AAs should become a forced, mandatory pick for both sides.
I’ve seen Spike slingers dunking on helicopters which is quite funny and satisfying to see.
nope. you forgot to include rwr and pilot skill (the most important part)
yeah, I only said your position was close to what the players i was talking about thought. because you said “they should go behind cover but some don’t for some reason, probably thinking CMs will save them lol”. frequently heli players either do not pay attention to maw and rwr, or they just realize it is over for them, so they try to make one last kill
It is an utterly defeatist vehicle class. lowest SP, you are “forced” to stay at the back of the map and watch other players alter the match’s course for you (by capping contested zones and taking out enemy ground troops). because a good pilot that will alter the course of the match will destroy you.
I agree, Spaa’s has been neglected for such a long time.
But lets not forget Gaijn will probably introduce even more advanced munitions to planes that can deal with enemy Spaa units, for example if they introduce HARM missiles it will be another problem(which most likely they will).
Thats what i usually do in my Tiger HAD Block 2, i just spawn in, look for enemy helicopters and spam on them :D
MAW should supersede the RWR so only pilot skill is left, but that’s already included as you need to find a good spot first, which you do with skill.
This is mostly the case with premium/squadron helicopters as those attract new players that don’t know how the game works.
Paying attention to MAW can save your ass.
I agree that a good CAS pilot will dunk on a good AA user in most cases, but people that don’t want/like to grind whole other TT should have a decent counter at their disposal in Ground TT.
yeah, you probably have to read my posts more thoroughly. and if you already did, im sorry i couldn’t communicate my point better. my point:
new helicopter players are laughed at for trying to flare manual/radar missiles. i think that new heli players are not trying to flare anything, i don’t think they know a missile is even coming. therefore, they are ridiculed for the wrong reasons.
“maw should supercede rwr” absolutely not. maw does not tell me if someone is locking me, maw does not tell me what type of missile is coming at me, maw does not say that type of radar is going after me. i can’t very well defeat the enemy if i don’t know what and where they are.
lastly, i think every nation should have squadron top tier cas, like japan
I don’t doubt that at all but those HARMs could still be intercepted, right?
Spam your 8 Spikes, go back to reload and spam some more before your old ones even managed to reach the target. Crazy gameplay which is the future of this game.
ground rb is turning into air rb, which i quit, as everyone is just sending their robot missiles to compete with other robot missiles, as the real jets both go defensive and away from the battlefield. this is why i want spikes to at least require some skill (more sp to spawn)
edit: this is also why i prefer helicopters (ka52, not tigers). a delicate approach, so to speak. every kill (save for igla kills) is personal.
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I get it but it’s nothing malicious, at least from my side. It just looks funny to see, just like people trying to defeat thermals with ESS.
I do agree that RWR can be useful (especially when engaged by air units) to know where your enemy is, but it’s also easily defeated by AAs turning off their radar and using thermals to locate you.
Yeah SPAMRAAMs are getting out of control in ARB with more and more gameplay being automated by plane’s systems.
This is also why I find it weird seeing people complaining about Kamovs being OP helicopters. They are most vulnerable ones and require fully manual guidance throughout the flight, as even hellfires have IOG.
It can be but at the same if you activate your radar you will exposed to Harm missiles easily.
Current CAS gameplay is pretty much is this, Spawn in spam your ordinance and go back to rearm.
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I cannot completely explain to you, how vital rwr for helicopters is, it seems. first of all, nobody ever turns their radar off. honestly. out of thousands of battles with my heli, i have encountered maybe 60 cases where someone did that. next, I get rwr when someone is guiding their missile towards me, regardless of their searching radar status.
gameplay automation is perhaps the term i was looking for, because i think it is the antithesis of videogames altogether.
this is actually a strength but yes, it is a weakness most of the time due to lack of skill.
I don’t see a problem with that then.
In my opinion more problematic would be the sheer number of A2G missiles a single plane would be able to toss. EFT has 10+ Brims so that amount of ordnance can’t be countered by a single AA and their ammo would quickly run out, even with ammo boxes.
Yeah it’s crazy how automated top tier air gameplay gets and we aren’t even close to LOAL stuff.
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I’m glad I’m one of the rare ones in that case.
How is that possible if you aren’t getting locked or pinged by a radar ? Hand-aiming is a thing.
Vikhrs are a double edged sword.
Yes you can guide them with your hand but it also leaves you vulnerable for much longer. You’ll waste a missile while dodging AAs, meanwhile FnFs would continue on their merry way.
a tactic that is employed by virtually none
yeah it is clear we haven’t encountered each other yet :)
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I believe we may have at some stage…
well, I did a text search through my photos drive, I only found a certain “erika pigeon” that I have killed, so either killing you was not anything special, or you killed me
My ItO 90 mostly ate Kamovs for lunch as all they could do is hide.
What’s even your play there as VT-1s are more than 2x faster than Vikhrs, you could only hope AA user is dumb so he fires directly at you for you to exploit Vikhrs’ proxy fuse ?
almost, because my last line of defense is not vikhrs. and its not hiding. additionally, if AA users were not dumb in general, i would not be defending ka52’s efficiency in this thread