Is US top tier too weak

When I hear the whine of the abrams upon spawning in, i just kind of stare at my screen and frown, never have good matches at that BR range when i hear that sound

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It’s absolutely 100% true, all you need to do is look at their profile. You’ll see 2-3:1 for Leo’s at top tier. Then you get to T-series and Abrams on their profile and they’re doing no better than anyone else. It’s simply not being paired with US often and having the best tanks.

I still do not see why people try to deny this.

In game a lot of the time I’ll start the match off with “gg everyone, we’ve got the US and there’s 8 prems.”

I took a break from it starting yesterday or the day before because it’s just ruining my top tier experience and I really don’t like mid or low tier. So war thunder is on rest for now for me lol

Doesn’t help that gaijin keeps fanning the flames of US winrates falling by adding new top tier premiums every patch, especially ones that are nowhere near as noob friendly as russian vehicles, so you have a situation where the winrates are declining because of the prem players, and gaijin’s response is to incentivise more to join the horde

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You take US out of the equation, those rare games with no US involved. They last longer, I go 3-5:1 in Japan. I’m not on US team I do similar. Then I go on a 8 game streak of US teammates. Of course paired against RU/SWE/GER and I start struggling to do 2-3:1 because everything folds around me so fast and I’m now over exposed and can’t do anything.

Then my respawn is trying to escape spawn to a defensible position which is hard and just tanks my KD and WR.

100 % right

Preach.

It’s sad how ODL premium warriors ruined a perfectly fine top tier lineup to the point of being unplayable.

doesnt compute, still see idiots with M1A2 seps and Sep V2s leaving with one death. They just do it constantly now.

Russian teams are also horrifically bad to be fair mate, but again US teams do not fold because theyre equipment, they fold due to people just leaving after one death, either due to being paired with the US or just being absolute brainlets man.

If you want to preserve your KD and winrate, go into a squad and play, only way youll get reliable KD and a WR over 60 percent.

Edit, quick question as well, seeing as i stopped with the TKX (P) and type 90s, think its worth going for the top tiers ? the TKX and Type10?

I use TKX(p) at top tier with no issue, the thermals make putting shots on target easily. Type 90 was a great tank to dip my toes in and realize it fits my play style perfectly. The pain was having to bring 11.3 squadron fighter with agm65b’s to 12.0 for CAS. Tkx(p), tkx and type 10 are absolutely great. But the type 90 shows its issue quickly at top tier.

I now have 1 reserve tank, both tkx’s and type 10. Great lineup. If it fits your playstyle. That’s what so annoying is I die more and kill less with an Abrams using the same play style as Japan.

Whatever doesn’t outright kill you in Japan, you survive and can shoot back like a 2a7. Fully committed to that tree as my main now. I have way more game in US but don’t play it anymore. Whatever pens you in US usually disables you. You’re dead in the water, that does not happen in Japan, for me.

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Yes , despite the TKX/Type 10 is the latest end of the line MBT for japan for quite a while. They are still one of the better MBT at top tier, even if other nation with their better armor and better dart they still hold their value

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see i tend to survive quite a bit with US. but thats coming from stuff like the CR2 , russian and chinese MBTs were most folks actually know where to aim…

ah i already got the 16AJ so im sound for cas, i actually have a lineup with it and the type90s and TKX (p)

Yeah i just took my 11.3 lineup there for a spin, they survived way more shots than they used to in all fairness, strangely enough, the type 90 for me used to be a damn match box

I just had a lot less fun in top tier ground in general the last year. When I play US, Russia, Israel, China or France it’s just “oh well time to fight the 2A7/122 again that far outclass any tank I can bring, I surely enjoy being at a massive disadvantage”. However at the same time playing my 2A7V and 2A7HU is also incredibly boring because of how absolutely stupidly easy and braindead they are to play.

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For me it’s rare to see an Abrams that survives more than 2 rounds if it enters my gunsight under normal conditions (so excluding the times where you just blindfire through smokes).

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yeah i tend to find the actual fun sweet spot is between 7.7 and 10.7 personally, the american 7.7 to 9.3 lineup is absolutely lovely, seeing as im working on the stryker and whatnot when i can be bothered.

8.7 britain with the Cheiftains (and 9.3 with the mk10 and khalid) is bliss, and the CR1s with the DS and mk3 and vickers mk7 is fun as well.

9.3 japan with teh type 74. type 89 and the RCV thing at 9.0 has netted me a couple nukes as well ( non drops unfortunately)

Isreal 9,3 is banging with the magachs and merkavas the combo of thermals, and amazing round, decent reload with decent mobility and surprisingly troly armour is again fun as hell.

Top tier tends to just be brutal and not worth it much now adays

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It’s worth the grind.

But to be fair, you still mostly do die immediately. It’s not survivable like a 2a7 at all… but the shots you DO survive is like being in a Leo. You gun and traverse still works normally and I will always out reload whoever shot me and I can find them and shot them back. Especially up close.

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11.3 Israel has been my sweetspot for the last week or so. Used that to grind the new Namer (not worth it over the previous one) and it gets a suprising amount of downtiers.

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Yeah I have to get the type 16 now due to more vehicles being dropped since i stopped with japan, but its between the leclerc and the Type 10 for me next tbh

Both seem worth it

love 9.3 isreal myself TBH mate I really like the megach 6C and shot kal dalet combined with the two merkavas.
wish there was a light tank tho

Edit: the 8.3 american lineup is fun as hell as well, and ive taken to a 7.7 one with recently getting the T54E2 which IMO should be 8.0 the thing is brilliant.

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That’s the IFV right? I don’t use any of that stuff.

I’ll give you some keys to the castle though. It has worked for me. Most people don’t have Gen 3 thermals( I think?), so elevate your rear ALL the way. It exposes your cheeks and turret rear more as opposed to your leaving only your cheeks being exposed with the appropriate level of hull elevation(whatever it’s called). This exposes your turret bustle and ammo rack a lot more. I think a lot of people only do just as much as needed to get the depression you need. This way you’re hull down “ better

If people clip your top, it knocks your autoloader out. 50% of the time I lose my ammo, the other 50% it’s just my autoloader. They shoot at what they think is my turret cheeks since at distance you can’t tell(or atleast I can’t with gen 2 or 1 thermals).

I only bring 17 rounds out, 15 darts and 2 heatfs. With this they knock my autoloader out I roll down and repair or they destroy my autoloader and my ammo and I have 2 darts and 2 heatfs left… but I just repair and now I know where you are.

It’s worked WAY better for me than only using enough depression to get the shot off that I need because half the time the shot goes through the cheeks anyways. This has worked a lot better for me.