Is US top tier too weak

Under 5 seconds? How often do you think people miss shots there?

You do realize that shotting 1mm under that spot will not pen right? Out of all the spots you can complain about the abrams not being good, the UFP is not one

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What are you even talking about? That’s just showing the bounce off the LFP. You can pen the Abrams anywhere above that and below the turret cheeks

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Yes. There are many scenarios like this that I draw from when I wrote my post about the 1v2.

It not only helps you in multiple offensive scenarios, but defensive too. (Your post would describe an Offensive Scenario)

I myself used to say that the Abrams does not need that much help (even in this thread I praise Abrams) but now there is a problem in last 1-2year where the 2a5+ variants are just too strong it creates this weird scenario something like…

122b > 2a7 >>>>>>>> brooms >>>>> some others >>>>>>>>> leclerc etc.

So might as well buff, even if it’s already very good relative to most.

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here how to make US stronger
fill your head with brains don’t let it empty.

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I mean the 2A7 is one tank, there is now with the addition of the M829A2 to the HC and Click Bait, 5 abrams with top tier rounds, mobility and roughly the same armour.
the abrams is fine where it is with what it has to be quite frank.

the issue with the US tree, comes from the people playing it

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This is literally true though lmao. Reverse speed allows you to pick your engagements on your own terms, which is if infinitely valuable. It allows you to reverse out of trouble if your turret crew is shot out. It increases your reaction time against targets behind you. It allows you to snipe efficiently.

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I mean no one seems to care about the merkavas, leclercs, challangers or arietes which are all wrong as well bud

I’ve stopped playing US, and I’ve started leaving games before they start if US makes up more than 50% of my team. It’s game ruining for me to just be collapsed in 2 mins. So I won’t participate anymore.

The best games are when the U.S. isn’t even in the match. The games last longer, you get more kills and they’re more fun.

No one is as brain dead and terrible as US players.

I’ve not quite reached the point of bailing off the rip, but man i’m getting close to it.

It’s just so painful when they’re on your side. I will always try my best, but I often cannot help but think why bother - all the Clickbaits / AIM’s back in hangar after 3 minutes certainly didn’t.

No amount of turret ring buff, DU inserts, M829A3, Patriot, F-22 or literal black magic, could overcome the burden of these wallet tanks one death dipping en-masse every battle.

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I never said they weren’t but france and italy get leos now…

We’re speaking strictly of US. There should be other threads addressing those.

Get the 120s and play 10.3, I’ve been having fun there. Still has the turret ring problem but you get better teams

It isn’t. Having a fast reverse does not automatically win every 1v2.

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You win 100% of the battles you don’t lose in War Thunder

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You are not guaranteed to reverse out of every scenario even with a high reverse speed.

Dudes one of the issues with US teams, just leaving cause he cant actually play properly.

Abrams are tied 3rd best mbts in game.
Plethora of cas/cap
And two good light tanks
Plus a decent spaa.

Usa is fine

Yeah once the turret ring, gunshield armor, and lower mantlet are fixed. Until then, it’s still a bugged POS

KH38MTs are the best ATG missile at the moment, and thus the best CAS for GRB. You can shoot down a maverick with a pantsir but you cannot shoot down a KH38MT with an ADATS.

Except that the armor does not ricochet shots at 81 degrees, and the “aiming drive” is modeled as the whole turret basket. Lets not mention the still not correct to history ammo and reload rates.

Yes for use against helicopters or really stupid CAS. ADATS is going to get buffed soon.

So you say, but you are wrong

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What is your ranking

Ranking ?

Howd you mean, its the strv 122+ , leo2a7. Then between t80bvm and abrams.

every single tank has a weak breach shot for balance.

lowe frontal arc / glascis is fine as well, they wouldnt accept the bug reports end of. same as many other tanks, the abrams has better armour than again almost every MBT bar the Leo2a7 / STRVs and the T80, but makes up for it in both firepower and mobility overall.

the US also has the best CAS/CAP options? sure a maverick is outranged by a KH38 but the KH is outranged by an amraam, F15E is one of the best platforms in game behind the rafale and EF2000.
Plus the adats like i said is decent, we all know pantsir is ridiculous a point i wont debate at all.

HSTVL surpsingly bounces a lot its the next 11.7 tank im going to unlock specifically for how strangely its armour works. Still better than most other trees options as well so.

join the club for almost every tank in every tree, for most Brs they are missing historical ammunition.

how so ?
ive got 5 nations at a minimum of 11.0 and use most with cas / cap at 13.0 or higher so its all top tier games, and have just ground out the CR3 TD, M1A2 and Leo2a5 and 6 in the last 4 weeks. so yeah ive played top tier a lot recently. and ive hundreds of battles in the abrams

Balance is one thing, not modeling it is another.

Every single shot that ricochets off the LFP penetrates the lower mantlet. Every shot that ricochets off the lower mantlet penetrates into the LFP. I’ve tested every top tier tank and the Abrams is the only one to act this way. It is seriously bugged and causes the horizontal turret drive to have an extremely high chance of breaking even with the worst shots.

Decent against what?

Except anywhere on the turret does not bounce 81+ degree shots.

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