Is US top tier too weak

Ah i had it the other way round apologies mate.

Abrams history js a bit convoluted for me same as the leo when theres different companies.competing.

Folks like to say that the cr2 was a private venture when realistically it was not

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only gaijin see all data
All third-party data has no reference value because it is not complete data. The charm of statistics

Depends on if you count the premium US top tier players or only non premium top tier US players.

Because I find the claim that non-premium top tier US players are worse than top tier German and Swedish players pretty hilarious and wrong. They are all incredibly stupid.

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Turret armor wise the Abrams is not straight up superior I would say. You can still frontally ammo rack the Abrams hull down if you hit certain spots.

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Turret armour i said and you can ammo rack the 2a7 if the rounds goes through the right side of the breach i think it is. I think any ways may be getting mixed up.

need to fix the spelling mistake, its meant to say the “hull is not”. Not the hill xd

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How true

When was that the case in your opinion ?

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Yes. I’ve brought this up often. Spall liners would do little in the way of a quite large secondary effect of DU rounds. Which would be a buff to a handful of nations and work towards leveling the spall liner playing field.

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From where they shoot at my 122 and i’m facing toward them they often shoot at ufp which most of people know it unlike normal Leopard it doesn’t work.

No i want to know when was the point they never had to aim for weakspots since you repeadingly claiming it.

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If I’m understanding what you’re saying correctly, It’s irrelevant to say that because it performs better out of a shorter barrel that it’s a better round.

You don’t go to a weight lifting competition and say “yeah, well second place actually won, because he lifted less weight but weighs less. So per pound of bodyweight, he lifts more.” Who lifts the most wins.

It doesn’t matter who performs better on a per calibre basis, it matters who’s dart pens more. Which is Germany.

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Technically yea but it damages the engine / trans

The IS-2 even then, to kill a T26E5 or tiger 2 you need a weak spot lol

Hm since when there are more uparmored Leopard running around their win rate drop like rock
Look at their win rate around 70 percent before 2A7 but after 2A7 it drop like rock in water because it they never had to face tanks with same level of frontal protection in mess number
why they had to? when most of enemy are look like this.
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any smooth brain can win the engagement when their enemy entire hull is green and their enemy PoV is look like this
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i mean thats not reallya thing ingame, otherwise tigers would break down and t34 would just stop moving, so i think they should add it

Meanwhile whole area around WW2 is just pixel hunting German mediums.


Shall we finally stop pretending USSR is some kind of an armor powerhouse just because they have better hull armor at certain tiers, while clearly having worse armor in other tiers ?

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Era eats rounds all the time. It’s not consistent and is RNG based, but I have without a doubt seen plenty of rounds be eaten entirely by ERA on a side shot.

Completely. I remember someone arguing with me saying aim at the breech it’s the most consistent OHK/D and I was baffled. Breech shots just get soaked up, whereas you lose crew and more with that shot on most other tanks pretty consistently.

That’s demonstrably untrue. If you like I can even go pull some games showing you that a pen and ammo hit does nearly always mean ammo detonation.

In fact seeing as it happened within the last few days. I MAY be able to go pull the game with 6 shots to the ammo carousel that had black ammo and no detonation. The hit replay won’t show this, just continued shots on the ammo.

But even if you remove an egregious example like this, because it was more of a 1 off. The spall liner of the t90m has a very good chance of eating the ability to detonate the ammo or hurt modules. Especially now that the autoloader acts like defecto armor for the carousel, even though it should not and is essentially paper thin metal that shouldn’t act this way.

The t90m is nowhere like a 2a7 or Strv, but the point was this statement was objectively false. And I factually can prove it, I’d just need to find the time to go back through my games and find it as just one of many examples of this.

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I think it’s individual to region. Recently about half my games with Japan are US teams or not. Which while it sucks, isn’t the worst problem. The problem is when the other team is made up of RU/Ger/Swe and for me is becoming a larger and larger occurrence as of late.

I think it’s more of just a regional availability thing. I’m living in Thailand for a while now and it’s just happening a lot more here, in the US I don’t remember it happening as much.

It’s just a shit luck of the cards. It’ll affect some more than others.

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Id like to see the relevant fixes add them.to the nations that should have them.

Like the Chinese mbts as it sits right now gaijin was presented with real and valid sources and just , no.

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