Is US top tier too weak

I don’t doubt that at all but those HARMs could still be intercepted, right?

Spam your 8 Spikes, go back to reload and spam some more before your old ones even managed to reach the target. Crazy gameplay which is the future of this game.

ground rb is turning into air rb, which i quit, as everyone is just sending their robot missiles to compete with other robot missiles, as the real jets both go defensive and away from the battlefield. this is why i want spikes to at least require some skill (more sp to spawn)

edit: this is also why i prefer helicopters (ka52, not tigers). a delicate approach, so to speak. every kill (save for igla kills) is personal.

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I get it but it’s nothing malicious, at least from my side. It just looks funny to see, just like people trying to defeat thermals with ESS.

I do agree that RWR can be useful (especially when engaged by air units) to know where your enemy is, but it’s also easily defeated by AAs turning off their radar and using thermals to locate you.

Yeah SPAMRAAMs are getting out of control in ARB with more and more gameplay being automated by plane’s systems.

This is also why I find it weird seeing people complaining about Kamovs being OP helicopters. They are most vulnerable ones and require fully manual guidance throughout the flight, as even hellfires have IOG.

It can be but at the same if you activate your radar you will exposed to Harm missiles easily.

Current CAS gameplay is pretty much is this, Spawn in spam your ordinance and go back to rearm.

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I cannot completely explain to you, how vital rwr for helicopters is, it seems. first of all, nobody ever turns their radar off. honestly. out of thousands of battles with my heli, i have encountered maybe 60 cases where someone did that. next, I get rwr when someone is guiding their missile towards me, regardless of their searching radar status.

gameplay automation is perhaps the term i was looking for, because i think it is the antithesis of videogames altogether.

this is actually a strength but yes, it is a weakness most of the time due to lack of skill.

I don’t see a problem with that then.
In my opinion more problematic would be the sheer number of A2G missiles a single plane would be able to toss. EFT has 10+ Brims so that amount of ordnance can’t be countered by a single AA and their ammo would quickly run out, even with ammo boxes.

Yeah it’s crazy how automated top tier air gameplay gets and we aren’t even close to LOAL stuff.

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I’m glad I’m one of the rare ones in that case.

How is that possible if you aren’t getting locked or pinged by a radar ? Hand-aiming is a thing.

Vikhrs are a double edged sword.
Yes you can guide them with your hand but it also leaves you vulnerable for much longer. You’ll waste a missile while dodging AAs, meanwhile FnFs would continue on their merry way.

a tactic that is employed by virtually none

yeah it is clear we haven’t encountered each other yet :)

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I believe we may have at some stage…

well, I did a text search through my photos drive, I only found a certain “erika pigeon” that I have killed, so either killing you was not anything special, or you killed me

My ItO 90 mostly ate Kamovs for lunch as all they could do is hide.
What’s even your play there as VT-1s are more than 2x faster than Vikhrs, you could only hope AA user is dumb so he fires directly at you for you to exploit Vikhrs’ proxy fuse ?

almost, because my last line of defense is not vikhrs. and its not hiding. additionally, if AA users were not dumb in general, i would not be defending ka52’s efficiency in this thread

I need a meme showcasing this axiom, as MANY people from this forum tend to overglorify the skill of some ‘mains’ based only on their like or dislike of a respective nation, this goes both air and ground. Naval people tend to be civil enough to drag discussions to other variables.

Yes you could spam dumb rockets as your last line of defense but that’s far from consistent and takes skill/luck.

On the other hand, FnF helicopters just need to pop out for a few seconds, fire their 8 missiles and go back to rearm. The window in which you can kill them with AAs is extremely small while they keep their full A2G efficiency.

And so isn’t Russia’s Air in ASB.

That’s how disingenuous it reads.

and I better hope I have at least one of those after so much experience :p

see

the efficiency with spikes and pars is just lower. too frequently they lose lock or only score crits. also, you can never really locate more than, say 4 enemies in less than 10 seconds, and I am being generous here - spaa often reacts quicker.

Usually I just say “non premium US mains are not much worse than mains from pretty much every other nations”, however there will usually be some butthurt minor nations mains shouting back “Wrong, clearly X nation mains (usually the nation they main themselfs) are better”.

The amount of stupid shit I commonly see nation mains do no matter what nation is incredible. Except Israel mains, but that is only because I only see about 1 Israel main every 5 games or so (this is a generous estimate too lol).

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I believe their performance is neutered because of balance, as FnF + IOG + great damage would make those helicopters much higher than 12.0 BR.

Gaijin offering Ground map view to all CAS helps a lot for finding clusters of enemies and calculating where most of the opposition would be placed. If you locate 4 enemies, you fire two missiles at each and go back to rearm. Getting 4 kills while exposing yourself only for a few seconds against ground threats is a pretty decent outcome.

br does not matter anymore, everything 12.0 gets sucked into the 12.7 black hole because of the player amount. sp cost for those would just rise.

I don’t think i’ve seen that happen a lot on the kill feed. plus f&f frequently transfers lock onto dead vehicles, which are common by the time you get a helicopter.

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Naval - Yes
Ground - Yes
Air - Yes
Bombers - YEAH !

Not just top tier lol