Is US top tier too weak

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know what is so sad, when youre on a team with guys, not even premium players, and they one death leave.
Seriously there are some seriously good players for the US teams, if they stayed in games longer it would help massively.

I want the tanks to be realistic as possible without morons leaking classified documents.
I want to see BRs that reflect the tanks, not tanks that reflect the BRs, if that makes sense. So give the leopard 2A7 its Dtech armour, put its BR up.
fix the abrams, turret ring the long, just dont make the hull inpenetrable because it isnt completely inpenetrable IRL then put it at a BR that makes sense, not 11.7 for the M1A2 which is functionally identical to the 12.0s and even the 11.7s
CR2s, merks the lot.

Id rather a full update even two of actually fixing and implementing all these damn bug reports for vehicles than cramming more stuff thats got half its equipment and half done into the game.

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theyre doing it to literally everyone now, CR2s are now worse than they were before with a top tier prem to boot which is just as bad.

2a7 is missing its components (which i know it is good right now but it still should get fixed and BR upped to match how it should be )

Merkavas are literally paper, which makes no sense at all.

USA did not need that 11.7 prem light tank at all, which i found weird but subsequently it led to teh HSTVL becoming the best top tier light… funny that for years people made reports the HSTVL reload was wrong, then as soon as a prem appears it gets fixed.

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Starting with V1 model all Abrams should recieve increased hull protection, doesnt mean it should be immune to anything like you said.

They leave because they know they are gonna get overwhelmed by enemy players and premium players who leaves after one death, at that rate its pretty much pointless to fight.

+1

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1465

We’re discussing Us players and tanks in this Thread so im not gonna include other nations problems for our discussion, i know other ones also suffer but lets not derail it.

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1466

which is a shame cause the 4 or 5 guys who are good that leave quickly usually could win the game tbh.

no no, i dont want to derail it at all man my bad, I want people to realise that its happening now across the board. They are purposfully going against bug reports now everywhere which is what i meant with that point.

US top tier is insane with the prems and squadron vehicles but man genuinely it is bonkers how many the just keeep adding.
And its a shame too cause it means most these cool vehicles are behind a paywall.

1467

Totally agree.

Yea that caused a lot of issues and the reason we are suffering.

F20 and RDF are best examples, F20 is one of my favourite jet and wanted for tech tree so long, in the end i ended up paying real money due to my insane compassion for TigerShark, only to suffer in 13.7MM XD.

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1468

It’s BR should already be put up as the 2A7V currently is. Give it D tech and it should make a significant jump in BR, like 1.0 or more at least.

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1469

the compression for air is insane as well, especially now with the EF2000 n rafale and F15E

yeah it certainly seems that way man.

funnily enough if gaijin overhauled the volumetric system, and decompressed we would probably see a lot of issues resolved.

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1470

not gonna debate that at all mate, definitely needs to go up.

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1471

At least those planes are 14.0 now, so i dont see them in my F20A.

Only if they do such thing, but seems like they have no intention to do that.

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yeah but trying to even use 12.7 air is near impossible due to 13.7s with ARH missiles god forbid I use my F15A anymore, just gets slapped by EF2000s, heck even the gripen at 13.7 with R darters is useless against them all.

they really are just doing the bare minimum arent they and raking in massive profits. think how many click baits alone are in game. never mind anything else

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1473

This is what happens when you give the best missiles to the UFOs with best FMs as well and place them just 0.3 higher than other vehicles which have much more downsides.

The same thing in ground, like what are the advantages Arietes have over 2A7s ? Better reload and that’s about it lol.

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1474

exactly my point, we need some serious decompression.

Hell that alone may make US top tier better

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1475

I explained why he was either a liar or a cheater.
Abrams round was just one of the suggestions I gave
I explained why my T80UM2 stats are just okay and that I still survive situations where i shouldn’t.

You’re removing context on these quotes to misrepresent them. It’s dishonest, which is also why I’m not engaging with you and a couple other ppl here. And lo and behold these exact people all start circlejerking about how bad and mean I am without actual arguments, while I had a good conversation with 2 guys I disagree with. Intuition was right as usual

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1476

And what exactly did I lie about? Since I am certainly not a cheater.

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1477

No i did not, i took the quotes from the context then debated them with my own points, thats how quotes work, or should i take the entire paragraph of you calling a person a cheater and liar because they disagree with you?

No you, who blatantly just tell people what theyre telling you is , “irrelevant”, those two guys you discussed with wasnt an argument it was them pointing out you saying stuff that is factually incorrect which i too mentioned and you completely glossed over.

I dont force you to engage with me, but I will call out the nonsense you spout especially when you constantly are insulting and accusing other members of the forum for being a cheater or liar, and all the comments you had that were removed.

what intuition ? you call us bias apoligists, aka russian bias apologists, while we catagorically prove to you it isnt there and youre throwing insults around at random when folks disagree.

IF you really want to ignore me, block me, because I will not sit here and watch you insult others while also spouting such a victim mentality with the USA tree.

“For the last time, only the major nations’ SPAA matter.” is just one quote that proves youre the one with the problem here.

This as well, factually wrong in game which has been proven by countless people. even alvis proves you can slap down pantsir with a tornado GR4 and brims as weak as they are.

more false information, RU CAS doesnt dominate by any metric due to the power of multi role aircraft e.g F15E , F16C that can down the SU34s and Su25s with ease due to amraam.

would you like me to pick apart literally everything you say word by word? and break it down to factually why each piece of information that isnt right is incorrect? or do you wanna just relax with insulting people and throwing about total bogus statements.

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1478

you didnt agree with him so your a cheater.

Yet im the dishonest one.

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1479

would you like me to pick apart literally everything you say word by word? and break it down to factually why each piece of information that isnt right is incorrect?

Please, you don’t even understand the points I’m making. You’re so dishonest that I bet you strawman them before you even start thinking about a response.

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it already should be up. If you have it d-tech and raised its BR, you’d have many games of just small Sweden, Ger and RU games because RU with t90m is the only tanks you can relatively say could be paired in the same category as the leo2’s. Though it makes concessions to have its armor and spall liner that the Leo’s do not. They’d probably need to sit at 12.7 if the current maximum is 12.0. Since they already should be 12.3 at a minimum and if we’re packing even more armor on, then an additional increase would be warranted.

Whereas I think t90m fits fine at 12.0, maybe 12.3 maximum if the other 2 got a bump, but I wouldn’t be arguing for it to get moved up. However, the Leo’s need a br increase and further so if they get more armor.

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1481

I’d recommend taking a step back and thinking, ‘‘should I bother’’ before writing something like that again

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