Is US top tier too weak

I’ve stopped playing US, and I’ve started leaving games before they start if US makes up more than 50% of my team. It’s game ruining for me to just be collapsed in 2 mins. So I won’t participate anymore.

The best games are when the U.S. isn’t even in the match. The games last longer, you get more kills and they’re more fun.

No one is as brain dead and terrible as US players.

I’ve not quite reached the point of bailing off the rip, but man i’m getting close to it.

It’s just so painful when they’re on your side. I will always try my best, but I often cannot help but think why bother - all the Clickbaits / AIM’s back in hangar after 3 minutes certainly didn’t.

No amount of turret ring buff, DU inserts, M829A3, Patriot, F-22 or literal black magic, could overcome the burden of these wallet tanks one death dipping en-masse every battle.

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I never said they weren’t but france and italy get leos now…

We’re speaking strictly of US. There should be other threads addressing those.

Get the 120s and play 10.3, I’ve been having fun there. Still has the turret ring problem but you get better teams

It isn’t. Having a fast reverse does not automatically win every 1v2.

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You win 100% of the battles you don’t lose in War Thunder

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You are not guaranteed to reverse out of every scenario even with a high reverse speed.

Dudes one of the issues with US teams, just leaving cause he cant actually play properly.

Abrams are tied 3rd best mbts in game.
Plethora of cas/cap
And two good light tanks
Plus a decent spaa.

Usa is fine

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Yeah once the turret ring, gunshield armor, and lower mantlet are fixed. Until then, it’s still a bugged POS

KH38MTs are the best ATG missile at the moment, and thus the best CAS for GRB. You can shoot down a maverick with a pantsir but you cannot shoot down a KH38MT with an ADATS.

Except that the armor does not ricochet shots at 81 degrees, and the “aiming drive” is modeled as the whole turret basket. Lets not mention the still not correct to history ammo and reload rates.

Yes for use against helicopters or really stupid CAS. ADATS is going to get buffed soon.

So you say, but you are wrong

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What is your ranking

Ranking ?

Howd you mean, its the strv 122+ , leo2a7. Then between t80bvm and abrams.

every single tank has a weak breach shot for balance.

lowe frontal arc / glascis is fine as well, they wouldnt accept the bug reports end of. same as many other tanks, the abrams has better armour than again almost every MBT bar the Leo2a7 / STRVs and the T80, but makes up for it in both firepower and mobility overall.

the US also has the best CAS/CAP options? sure a maverick is outranged by a KH38 but the KH is outranged by an amraam, F15E is one of the best platforms in game behind the rafale and EF2000.
Plus the adats like i said is decent, we all know pantsir is ridiculous a point i wont debate at all.

HSTVL surpsingly bounces a lot its the next 11.7 tank im going to unlock specifically for how strangely its armour works. Still better than most other trees options as well so.

join the club for almost every tank in every tree, for most Brs they are missing historical ammunition.

how so ?
ive got 5 nations at a minimum of 11.0 and use most with cas / cap at 13.0 or higher so its all top tier games, and have just ground out the CR3 TD, M1A2 and Leo2a5 and 6 in the last 4 weeks. so yeah ive played top tier a lot recently. and ive hundreds of battles in the abrams

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Balance is one thing, not modeling it is another.

Every single shot that ricochets off the LFP penetrates the lower mantlet. Every shot that ricochets off the lower mantlet penetrates into the LFP. I’ve tested every top tier tank and the Abrams is the only one to act this way. It is seriously bugged and causes the horizontal turret drive to have an extremely high chance of breaking even with the worst shots.

Decent against what?

Except anywhere on the turret does not bounce 81+ degree shots.

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Even with all that I’d say it’s easily sharing the spot with Type 10s right behind up-armored Leopards and BVM.

This is simply not true.
UFP can and will bounce shots away from the mantlet and turret ring.

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See video I just added to prior post

Consider camera vertical angle.

Most of the UFP will bounce shots without doing any damage. We can test it out in a custom game if you want.

Past the bottom of the driver’s hatch. No one aims for where you are aiming. People are getting rewarded for bad turret ring shots by disabling the Abrams in that way.

You do realize this is a pretty awful argument, right ?

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How so? Try that with any other top tier MBT. It just doesn’t happen to anything other than the Abrams.

You shouldn’t just handwave parts of the hull armor that can’t be penned by using such “arguments”. M1s have better armor than plenty of other contemporaries.

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Like I said, try that with any other MBT. Then try and make your argument again. You need to pixel hunt for those shots on any other mbt.