For entertainment bro
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fr, T58 should go to 12.7 immediately.
Yes. Both tanks ruined 7.3-9.3 bracket. I wanted to avoid the bmpt shit show but not going too low. But guess what, even lower it’s a shit show.
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Turm III dies easy only to aphe and a big HE. It’s very survivable to sub-caliber shells.
I was already avoiding this BR range because of compression and OP premiums but now it’s even worse.
You basically have to pay to even be competitive.
Luckily I don’t care for post-war vehicles but for those which do, it’s just a Gaijin paywall.
The only reason the T58 its so good its mostly cause of absolute dogshit the volumetric of this game works
In the analysis it shows for example that the Turm 3 with APDS would pen the T58 turret nearly everywhere beside side cheeks but when it comes to actual gameplay that never actually happends
The Turm 3 its a glass cannon,good gun,good round,good coax,stab and fast
No survivability how so ever
The T58 has insanely good gun,insanely op round,decent coax,no stab,decently fast and insanely armored cause of how i stated before,the dogshit of volumetric update
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Turn 3 is fine, once you get used to 8.0BR range, it’s fine. T58 is freaking 12.7 nightmare fuel. It should be changed to 8.7, or possible 9.0. The only way to defeat it is to either disable it’s barrel, or attack when it is distracted.
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Autoloaded 5s APDS slinger with great gun handling and gun depression all with good mobility and full stabilization at 8.3.
It’s not fine.
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it isn’t. It’s better than every other 8.3 MBT
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My 8.0 Magach 5 tears through the thing easily. It’s basically a Leopard 1
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Many tanks with APFSDS can eat through the thing like its Swiss cheese.
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The famous defense of “if it has no armor, it is always balanced!” Get real, come back with real arguments. It is the best 8.3 mbt by far. Try to tell me otherwise.
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Has the same pen of a M60 at a higher BR, sure it can move quickly, but many tanks move quickly too. Also the coax only has 50mm of pen
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None of this disproves its not the best 8.3 MBT. (it is). Listing the few downsides it has is not some gotcha
Having only APDS isn’t a massive hinderance at it’s BR, armor only really starts becoming a factor on MBTs at around 9.0/9.3, and even these armored MBTs are vulnerable to standard APDS/HEAT in fairly consistent weakspots. Not to mention the autoloaded gun and the coax makes it very forgiving for the occasional misplaced shot. And it’s already adept at getting to the flanks, where merely having OK pen doesn’t really hurt it.
Just to put it into perspective, let’s compare some 8.0 MBTs to their direct successors at 8.3.
For the TURM, you take a Leopard 1, and you give it a stabilizer, a 5 second autoloader, a 30mm coax which shreds light vehicles/SPAA due to the APHE shells, and best in class gun depression at 12 degrees.
For the T-55A, you take a T-54, and give it a stabilizer, and the single worst dart in game. Also, you’re at a tier where your armor absolutely no longer works, even in downtiers.
For the M60A1 AOS, you take an M60, and give it a stabilizer, and a turret that’s more resistant against APHE rounds that you won’t be fighting anymore at 8.3.
Do you see the difference here?
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Okay and ?
If it had any armor against darts it would instantly be a 9.0+ worthy vehicle.
just enough to kill you through a cupola
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50mm is plenty considering its APHE
I have literally top fragged a 10.7 match in the TOG, this isnt confirming anything really
That’s not 10, but still pretty good.
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