oh ok so kh101 on troops and tank, nice
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What are you talking about?
ill ask you the same thing
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Well, it’s you who has a stealth fighter using its 400-km-range cruise missile for ‘deep strikes’, the actual depth of which is just 150 km from the border.
One side has stealth fighters and several hundred 4++ generation multirole jets, while the other side has a few dozen rusty buckets. If those rusty buckets are still flying, it means the first side has failed on a fundamental level.
We’re talking about the effectiveness of airpower. Do you know why coalition and Iraqi losses in 1991 differed by two orders of magnitude?
There was only advertising of kh69 with su-57s. I dont see how any other airframe can carry those missiles if not advertised to carry it?
Osint or ukranian radar also continue to state Su-57s going airborne in large scale attacks,
or spotted taking off from airfields from other civilians reporting on ground when there is an attack taking place over Ukraine. Is all that false?
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well these rusty bucket has been in good hand destroying targets with agm88 and gbu39. not to forget that f16 is doing good destroying incoming kh101.
on the other side, they not doing as much as they are capabale, yes sometime to time they launch r37m destroying mig29 and su27, but most of the part its only striking.
so yeah both side are doing good in their way, is it the wrong way ? idk i dont make war
yeah sure
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The first use of these weapons occurred when the conflict had already been going on for half a year.
This is literally an illustration of the balance of power between the sides in 2022.
Also would like to point out, su-34/30sm/35s are usually dispensable airframes. They are continuously developing long range Fab UMPK systems over 100kms to avoid getting shot down but we have heard reports of how ukranians move in a patriot system close to a frontline where they know su-34s are getting use regularly. I believe 2 months ago is where they moved up a system to be able to shoot down the su34 and managed successfully.
Dont think the su-57s would be risked in any case with how expensive overall and deep security risk it would be to lose such an airframe. So its not wrong when, they usually launch the cruise missiles from afar. Some variants of the patriot missile can have more than 150km of range, considering the su-34 audio where they narrowly escaped over the city of mariupol which is insanely far away. Thats quite risky for any 5th gen to go keep occurring closely to such frontline distances giving its rcs away in such low numbers
Also, we know the ukranians patriot systems have different missiles or hybrid configuration i suppose because such as the pac-3 mse missiles have been spotted before, so they do have some variety of patriot missiles.
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Quite literally nothing you said here is correct
Ukranian radar pages reporting for civilian safety of incoming missile possibility:
All from this month
^ thats just a few examples. You can search in the page of the threat of felons popping up quite a bit. Those are civilian based radars of Ukraine for warnings
Also russian advertisement Su-57 with Kh-69
Idk what reality you live in or tell others what they are correct on when you provide no proof. Ive provided mine. Case closed
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Literally all of the “sources” you list reference each other which also don’t reference any real source (UA radar is not that bad bud it’s not great either)
I live in the reality where absurd nonsense such as “su57 was used because kh69 was used” is considered acceptable evidence. That is nonsense which relies on further nonsensical assumptions about the development of the kh69, The su57 is used in marketing!1!1!1!1! That must mean this big standard cruise missile developed from an extremely widespread compatible weapon system was changed so that just this extremely rare aircraft which is produced at a snail pace is the only delivery system.
Stop the nonsense.
I recommend just posting screenshots of those groups and not just link the telegram before your post most likely gets deleted lol
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All that you said is whole lotta nothing no evidence. Stop your own nonsense.
then post a single picture of a kh-69 being used on anything that isnt the Su-57
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That’s on you mate. You’re the one making the absurd claims
Thats on you as well, youre the one making absurd claims that it is compatible when there is 0 proof it is with the rest of ru aviation airframes.
Plain delusion. I see you’re right back claiming this after months despite you quite literally admitting that kh69 being limited to su57 would be extremely unlikely.
and yet it wasnt seen on anything but the Su-57
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No I am not. You claim su57 has seen combat, and your only real evidence is that kh69 was confirmed used. It’s on you to prove that the weapon system is somehow exclusive to it (despite all circumstancial evidence to the contrary)